Lo, Been watching this list for about 2 years since I started work up in Keele, I think I was told of some kind of regular meeting in Keele, so I starting imagining some arrangement you had with the university to have a room, and a bunch of people with laptops. Nah! Nothing of the sort like this must have existed, but then I've never been to a meeting because I can never work out where they are or when from the ever continual stream of decision making on the mailing list! I'd love to go to one however, but surely we can strike a deal with Staffordshire University in Stoke-on-Trent (where there's a computing department who may help us out, and it's a central location for us all) to give us a regular location to be at... show off what we may have found on ye olde internet on our lappys since the last time we met - then go PUB. Although I don't mind if its Keele either since I'm already here. All the talk about splitting, maybe a Potteries LUG and a Staffordshire LUG would be easier to manage, and the places the meetings are be more familiar to the attendees. There's no reason why the two close-by LUGs can't have joint meetings on occasion. I never have time or the memory to check a web site regularly, so maybe we can stick to IRC... Mailing Lists... and a CalDAV server so we know when stuff is... and just use the web site for general information and help people to use these real protocols for communication. Hell if anyone feels like resurrecting the Papercut project with me (written in Python, little out of date... can't figure out why it won't work) then we can even have an NNTP server that uses a phpBB database... then people can use proper caldav/nntp/irc clients or use the website for a forum/web-calendar/java-irc. Best of both worlds. I have a server here at the Internet Central data centre in Keele where I can run whatever is needed too. Any thoughts? -- Steven Maddox Lantizia / Cyorxamp