See this could bring the whole thread swinging back round to advocacy of FOSS. I don't understand why so many people want to use proprietary software with the horrid overhead of a GUI on a server when there's much better stuff to do it like Debian or FreeBSD. Hell...ubuntu server is amazingly easy to setup as a LAMP box. A lot of the websites that are out there are a bit too ambitious for the hardware they're hosted from in my opinion. I've heard of and seen people setup an XP (*spit*) box as a webserver running on a 466MHz processor with 128MB RAM...MOST of which is going to the explorer gui! Bringing us to the question what are we doing to promote linux? (/me starts a separate thread) On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 14:29 +0100, Kris Douglas wrote: > The web is full of great examples of how people shouldn't be allowed > to be sitting in front of computers. There are some websites that have > unusable searches, navigation that changes depending on what page you > are on, and the worst of all, websites that are entirely made of > images, held together by tables and shoved on the internet with a > server running windows xp. What the hell is the world coming to? > > On 23/07/07, adam nicholls inkysplat(a)gmail.com> wrote: > This is why I've always hated MySpace, it was a nice idea that > was > engineered totally the wrong way. Any website that is stupid > enough > not to check for CSS/HTML code would be considerd a exploit, > but > MySpace instead embrace it and call it a "Feature". Facebook > has > sucesseed where MySpace has failed in terms of design. > > I'm also however guilty of poor choice in colour schemes. I > remember > sitting down with Netscape Composer and uploading my un-W3C'd > websites > to angelfire/geocities. However that was 7 years ago, and the > web has > moved on. But its a process I think all designers go through > when > first using HTML, once you've worked out how HTML allows > elements to > be coloured and positioned you can then make the transition > into CSS. > Atm I can write HTML and CSS to W3C standard and even write > PHP > scripts and setup MySQL databases to link to it. However my > PHP > coding probabily isn't even written efficient enough that > would make > it usable by the hundreds. But its a learning process. > > Its interesting though to see so many major companies on the > internet > not using W3C compliance infavour of competant web design. For > example > http://validator.w3.org/check\?uri=www.amazon.co.uk 1,160 > errors on > the page!! W3C and web design should go hand-in-hand, some of > my > personal favourite designs on the internet are open source > projects. > Examples like www.jokosher.org www.joomla.com www.scribus.net. > > -- > Adam Nicholls > > _______________________________________________ > Staffslug mailing list > Staffslug(a)staffslug.org.uk > http://www.staffslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/staffslug > > > > -- > Regards, > Kris Douglas - Softdel Limited > > Web: www.softdel.net > Mail: kris(a)softdel.net > _______________________________________________ > Staffslug mailing list > Staffslug(a)staffslug.org.uk > http://www.staffslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/staffslug _______________________________________________ Staffslug mailing list Staffslug(a)staffslug.org.uk http://www.staffslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/staffslug