Try visiting "One Stop Computers Ltd", phone 01782-847208, www.onestopcomputers.co.uk, 173-175 London Road, Stoke-On-Trent, ST4 5RW. (Parking opposite. And I don't have any personal connection with them.) I bought one of their economy AMD models 18 months ago, and it works fine. When I installed a CD/DVD Writer I found the insides were incredibly neat, though they seem to have had trouble getting the cheap casing to fit together. They happily sold the machine without Windows. BSD and Linux mostly installed okay. I found The only real problem came with Slackware, which at that time couldn't recognise the SATA Hard Disk. Possibly other distros might not recognise the Shared-Memory Video, which only functions as Standard VESA. I needed to grasp the mysteries of Hard Disk Configuration, with its fictitious Cylinders, Heads & Sectors. Otherwise I had no difficulty installing FreeBSD, NetBSD, Debian and OpenSUSE. The 64-bit versions of FreeBSD and OpenSUSE had issues. Personally I don't believe this was a Hardware Problem, though it may be a feature of AMD Sempron machines. "One Stop" build their own designs, and probably want you to pay in advance. But they know about Linux, and they have a large stock of extra bits. Their Parts Catalogue is online as a PDF, though their current Systems Catalogue doesn't seem to exist just now. Faictz Ce Que Vouldras: Frank Mitchell On Friday 11 April 2008 23:19:25 Steven Maddox (Cyorxamp) wrote: