2008/10/22 <staffslug(a)staffslug.org.uk&gt;: Nice :-) I'll take a look at those. It's easy enough building your own PC, I've been doing them for years. However, sometimes, some components do not 'gel' well together so anything that gives some ideas without the financial heartache of ending up with unusable components is a good thing. I started to read this expecting it to be about beer though.... :-( On that note :-) I currently have about 15 gallons of home brewed lager and bitter :-) I can honestly say that I am very well pleased with the quality too. Must get round to doing some barley wine. It won't be ready until next Winter though as it does need a long maturation period. -- ============================================== Kevan Farmer Linux user #373362 Staffordshire