Tig, I'm up and running fine on U8.10 and have made new ubuntu and XP VMs fine I have dragged a Win2K3SBS from a VMWare server and am trying to spin that up virt-goodies is my friend! Will try more later and keep you posted Got a yummy server to play on. Twin QuadCore CPUs, 8Gb RAM and 4x15K SAS (Software raid 5) XP runs faster than on bare metal! Shame it's not mine to keep :-( Sim -- Simon Faulkner 01538 303 900 http://dpnet.co.uk Dedicated Programmes Limited Staffordshire Moorlands