Gmail is driving me round the bend lately (for quite a while actually) When I open Ffox and go to mail gmaill signs in and opens normally but a lot of times when I click "send" it takes ages to do anything. Just says " connecting to gmail" at the bottom. Sometimes this takes 2-3 mins! The chat in gmail is hopeless - always dropping out but when I use gmail chat in Pidgin it's no problem at all. My router settings maybe? All that mtu/mru stuff? Can't be isp cos gchat and messenger are ok. IRC is ok too. My ancient hotmail account is now much better than gmail. I know other people around here who use gmail without problem so it must be something in my set up. As I write this the chat is dropping in and out. PITA Stuart