11:29 a.m.
I have in my possesion a lovely little Sony VAIO Picture Book
notebook. Think mini notebook and you've got it. It's a bit bigger
than my ancient but still very workable, Psion 3a. Now, has anybody
any experience of these little beauties? Obviously with regards to
Linux. It's only got 64mb of RAM so forget Fedora or SuSE etc and
even Debian. I'm thinking of putting Damn Small Linux on it - which I
have recently discovered and like very much.
Of course, what I would love is to up the RAM....trouble is, it's
bloody expensive :-( Think of current prices and at least treble
it... it's a special chip of course, thank you Sony. So, if anybody
thinks they may know of somewhere that has some going cheap I'd be
very interested to hear of it.
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12:43 p.m.
On 03/06/06, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I have in my possesion a lovely little Sony VAIO Picture Book
I'd check Crucial - we upgraded our Dell from 64MB to 192MB with a
module from Crucial, very reasonably priced. As for distro, we run
XUbuntu on our laptop. It has a 400MHz Celeron, and was usable with
64MB, although it's much faster with 192MB.
XUbuntu is basically Ubuntu, but with XFCE for the desktop, which is
much lighter than GNOME or KDE. I like it, but I hate the file
manager, so I ended up installing another one (can't remember which,
but it looks a lot like Windows Explorer)
If you like Damn Small Linux, then a hard drive install of that is
probably a good idea. I've heard reports of it running well on a 486
with 16MB of RAM, so it should be fine on your new laptop.
Russ
5:54 p.m.
On 03/06/06, Russ Phillips <russ(a)phillipsuk.org> wrote:
On 03/06/06, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I have in my possesion a lovely little Sony VAIO Picture Book
I'd check Crucial - we upgraded our Dell from 64MB to 192MB with a
module from Crucial, very reasonably priced. As for distro, we run
XUbuntu on our laptop. It has a 400MHz Celeron, and was usable with
64MB, although it's much faster with 192MB.
XUbuntu is basically Ubuntu, but with XFCE for the desktop, which is
much lighter than GNOME or KDE. I like it, but I hate the file
manager, so I ended up installing another one (can't remember which,
but it looks a lot like Windows Explorer)
If you like Damn Small Linux, then a hard drive install of that is
probably a good idea. I've heard reports of it running well on a 486
with 16MB of RAM, so it should be fine on your new laptop.
Russ
Hi Russ. Crucial were my first port of call :-) They always are.
This time they couldn't help though, that's how specialised this RAM
is :-( It might turn out that the only way I can get any is to look
for a spares or repairs job.
DSL should indeed run in that small amount of memory. I've got it on
a USB stick at the moment and it boots very fast. I like the idea of
Xubuntu too. Have you heard of the other one? I at first thought it
was Xubuntu (Xfce desktop) apparently it's a different version???
Early days yet for it.
I've not forgotten about that DVD I just haven't had chance (or been
physically capable) to pop up and borrow it.... I will do....
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On 03/06/06, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
DSL should indeed run in that small amount of memory. I've got
it on
a USB stick at the moment and it boots very fast. I like the idea of
Xubuntu too. Have you heard of the other one? I at first thought it
was Xubuntu (Xfce desktop) apparently it's a different version???
Early days yet for it.
Which other one? According to www.ubuntu.com there are Ubuntu (GNOME),
Kubuntu (KDE), Edubuntu (for schools) and Xubuntu (XFCE). Xubuntu only
became a "proper" Ubuntu version when 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was
released earlier this week, which may be where the confusion is coming
from. As far as I can tell (and experience with Ubuntu & Xubuntu backs
this up) the different versions differ primarily in which desktop you
get by default.
Russ
6:07 p.m.
the only difference is the desktop, i agree.. i'm a kde man myself ;)
dapper drake does look like a new path for ubuntu perhaps, although i
haven't tried it yet... they may be aiming towards corporate measures
with this campaign on the community!
On 03/06/06, Russ Phillips <russ(a)phillipsuk.org> wrote:
On 03/06/06, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> DSL should indeed run in that small amount of memory. I've got it on
> a USB stick at the moment and it boots very fast. I like the idea of
> Xubuntu too. Have you heard of the other one? I at first thought it
> was Xubuntu (Xfce desktop) apparently it's a different version???
> Early days yet for it.
Which other one? According to www.ubuntu.com there are Ubuntu (GNOME),
Kubuntu (KDE), Edubuntu (for schools) and Xubuntu (XFCE). Xubuntu only
became a "proper" Ubuntu version when 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was
released earlier this week, which may be where the confusion is coming
from. As far as I can tell (and experience with Ubuntu & Xubuntu backs
this up) the different versions differ primarily in which desktop you
get by default.
Russ
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12:18 p.m.
On 03/06/06, Andrew Edwards <edwards.andrew(a)gmail.com> wrote:
the only difference is the desktop, i agree.. i'm a kde man
myself ;)
dapper drake does look like a new path for ubuntu perhaps, although i
haven't tried it yet... they may be aiming towards corporate measures
with this campaign on the community!
On 03/06/06, Russ Phillips <russ(a)phillipsuk.org> wrote:
> On 03/06/06, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > DSL should indeed run in that small amount of memory. I've got it on
> > a USB stick at the moment and it boots very fast. I like the idea of
> > Xubuntu too. Have you heard of the other one? I at first thought it
> > was Xubuntu (Xfce desktop) apparently it's a different version???
> > Early days yet for it.
>
> Which other one? According to www.ubuntu.com there are Ubuntu (GNOME),
> Kubuntu (KDE), Edubuntu (for schools) and Xubuntu (XFCE). Xubuntu only
> became a "proper" Ubuntu version when 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was
> released earlier this week, which may be where the confusion is coming
> from. As far as I can tell (and experience with Ubuntu & Xubuntu backs
> this up) the different versions differ primarily in which desktop you
> get by default.
>
> Russ
>
I'll root through my bookmarks about this. I too was confused. Yes,
the only differences are indeed the different desktops. However, it's
easy to install KDE onto Ubuntu (or vice versa) and have a choice.
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On 04/06/06, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I'll root through my bookmarks about this. I too was confused. Yes,
the only differences are indeed the different desktops. However, it's
easy to install KDE onto Ubuntu (or vice versa) and have a choice.
Yeah, if I remember correctly, there are packages named something like
KDE-desktop, GNOME-desktop and XFCE-desktop. We got XUbuntu Hoary on
our laptop by installing Ubuntu (GNOME was *very* slow with 64MB RAM!)
then installing the XFCE-desktop package.
Russ
10:08 a.m.
On 05/06/06, Russ Phillips <russ(a)phillipsuk.org> wrote:
On 04/06/06, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'll root through my bookmarks about this. I too was confused. Yes,
> the only differences are indeed the different desktops. However, it's
> easy to install KDE onto Ubuntu (or vice versa) and have a choice.
Yeah, if I remember correctly, there are packages named something like
KDE-desktop, GNOME-desktop and XFCE-desktop. We got XUbuntu Hoary on
our laptop by installing Ubuntu (GNOME was *very* slow with 64MB RAM!)
then installing the XFCE-desktop package.
Russ
I've not found that other Ubuntu Lite site yet, but, I did find this
in my bookmarks:
http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/index.html
A quick and easy way of adding all the supplementaries :-)
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On 05/06/06, Richard Smedley <richard.smedley03(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
On Sat, 2006-06-03 at 11:29 +0100, Kevanf1 wrote:
> I have in my possesion a lovely little Sony VAIO Picture Book
[snip]
> It's only got 64mb of RAM so forget Fedora or SuSE etc and
> even Debian.
Debian would be fine - until this spring my mother had been running
Debian on a Toshiba notebook with 32MB RAM as her only desktop machine
for the past four years.
I've run Debian desktops with less memory in the past - their usefulness
depends upon what apps you actually _need_ to run.
Perhaps the question should be - what do you want to use the computer
for? - I suspect Debian will still be in the answer somewhere though,
it usually has been for me for the past decade ;-)
- Richard,
btw have you looked on e-bay for the RAM?
Now that's interesting. I honestly didn't think Debian would run on
such a small amount of RAM. Though, to be fair, I was/am thinking of
using DSL which is Deb based :-))) I suppose it all depends upon
which desktop I use, as Russ has said. I will admit to being a KDE
man but I like Xfce and Fluxbox. Gnome is ok but, akin to KDE does
have a large footprint and I really don't like that top tool bar. I
have a Dell 7000 in bits at the moment and just want to concentrate on
getting that up and running before I start installing on the Sony.
The Dell possibly needs a new (or at least working) inverter board as
the screen itself is fine. Thankfully I know a man who possibly has
some :-)
Yep, I've tried eBay for that memory.... the prices are crazy. I
shall keep looking though because you never know...
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12:08 p.m.
On Sat, 2006-06-03 at 11:29 +0100, Kevanf1 wrote:
I have in my possesion a lovely little Sony VAIO Picture Book
[snip]
It's only got 64mb of RAM so forget Fedora or SuSE etc and
even Debian.
Debian would be fine - until this spring my mother had been running
Debian on a Toshiba notebook with 32MB RAM as her only desktop machine
for the past four years.
I've run Debian desktops with less memory in the past - their usefulness
depends upon what apps you actually _need_ to run.
Perhaps the question should be - what do you want to use the computer
for? - I suspect Debian will still be in the answer somewhere though,
it usually has been for me for the past decade ;-)
- Richard,
btw have you looked on e-bay for the RAM?
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12:19 p.m.
anyone ever used fluxbox? it's nifty if you ever wanna have a dabble
with an "eye candy" desktop
On 05/06/06, Russ Phillips <russ(a)phillipsuk.org> wrote:
On 04/06/06, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'll root through my bookmarks about this. I too was confused. Yes,
> the only differences are indeed the different desktops. However, it's
> easy to install KDE onto Ubuntu (or vice versa) and have a choice.
Yeah, if I remember correctly, there are packages named something like
KDE-desktop, GNOME-desktop and XFCE-desktop. We got XUbuntu Hoary on
our laptop by installing Ubuntu (GNOME was *very* slow with 64MB RAM!)
then installing the XFCE-desktop package.
Russ
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On 05/06/06, Andrew Edwards <edwards.andrew(a)gmail.com> wrote:
anyone ever used fluxbox? it's nifty if you ever wanna have a
dabble
with an "eye candy" desktop
Yes, it's the default desktop with DSL :-) very light and very nice.
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with an "eye candy" desktop
There can be only one!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3304682858126153303&q=xgl
8:28 a.m.
i like xgl, however i've heard it's a real bitch to install.. not to
mention i spend my days looking at a terminal!
On 07/06/06, Simon Faulkner <simon(a)titanic.co.uk> wrote:
> with an "eye candy" desktop
There can be only one!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3304682858126153303&q=xgl
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9:10 a.m.
Andrew Edwards wrote:
anyone ever used fluxbox? it's nifty if you ever wanna have a
dabble
with an "eye candy" desktop
Flux is very very nice, use it on my etch machine at home and its lovely.
I like the nice light weigth feel and the fact that it just does what I
want.
Btw, just recently my fonts in firefox and thunderbird have changed
themselves anyone come across this or got a good suggestion how to
change them ?
Ben
9:35 a.m.
New subject: Debian/Ubuntu Newbie
Hi All,
I'm feeling a little out of my depth after switching to Debian/Ubuntu.
What's the Ubuntu way of launching a program after startup?
RH/RC use /etc/rc.local
I am specifically wanting to start synergy
Simon
9:57 a.m.
New subject: Debian/Ubuntu Newbie
hopefully the following will help
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/28
On 07/06/06, Simon Faulkner <simon(a)titanic.co.uk> wrote:
Hi All,
I'm feeling a little out of my depth after switching to Debian/Ubuntu.
What's the Ubuntu way of launching a program after startup?
RH/RC use /etc/rc.local
I am specifically wanting to start synergy
Simon
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New subject: Debian/Ubuntu Newbie
Andrew Edwards wrote:
hopefully the following will help
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/28
Nice shootin' Tex!
10:35 a.m.
New subject: Debian/Ubuntu Newbie
If you use gnome then there is a settings area to add commands that
run at startup where you can add synergyc etc (assuming the client
here) don't use -f !
Otherwise check out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48196
and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynergyHowto
On 07/06/06, Simon Faulkner <simon(a)titanic.co.uk> wrote:
Hi All,
I'm feeling a little out of my depth after switching to Debian/Ubuntu.
What's the Ubuntu way of launching a program after startup?
RH/RC use /etc/rc.local
I am specifically wanting to start synergy
Simon
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On 07/06/06, Simon Faulkner <simon(a)titanic.co.uk> wrote:
Andrew Edwards wrote:
> hopefully the following will help
> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/28
Nice shootin' Tex!
Yay, plenty of 'blah' in that one :-))))
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