the first one is not there (/etc/conf.d/net) and the second one causes the terminal to have some sort of fit! I'll paste it below only because i can see some legible stuff in there! _______________________________________________________________ Usage: route [-nNvee] [-FC] [<AF>] List kernel routing tables 51 route [-v] [-FC] {add|del|flush} ... Modify routing table for AF. 52 53 route {-h|--help} [<AF>] Detailed usage syntax for specified AF. 54 route {-V|--version} Display version/author and exit. 55 56 -v, --verbose be verbose 57 -n, --numeric don't resolve names 58 -e, --extend display other/more information 59 -F, --fib display Forwarding Information Base (default) 60 -C, --cache display routing cache instead of FIB 61 62 <AF>=Use '-A <af>' or '--<af>'; default: %s 63 List of possible address families (which support routing): 64 +NEW_ADDRT +RTF_IRTT +RTF_REJECT +I18N 65 AF: (inet) +UNIX +INET +INET6 +IPX +AX25 +NETROM +X25 +ATALK +ECONET +ROSE 66 HW: +ETHER +ARC +SLIP +PPP +TUNNEL +TR +AX25 +NETROM +X25 +FR +ROSE +ASH +SIT +FDDI +HIPPI +HDLC/LAPB +EUI64 inet/usr/share/localenet-tools-net-host%s: Internal Error `%s'. 67 longopts 1 rangeroute.c%s 68 %s 69 %s 70 A:eCFhnN64Vv?adddeldeleteflushnet-tools 1.60route 1.98 (2001-04-15)netromddptcpipextendverboseversionnumericsymbolicprotocolfibhelp UNSPECUNIX DomainDARPA InternetIPv6AMPR AX.25AMPR NET/ROMNovell IPXAppletalk DDPEconetCCITT X.25AMPR ROSEAsh 71 ..%s (%s) Unknown address family `%s'. 72 ip6Please don't supply more than one address family. 73 Too much address family arguments. 74 Malformed Ash address%1x[NONE SET]/proc/sys/net/ashI^ds8/ÔøΩ«åÔøΩÔøΩÔøΩÔøΩÔøΩ%s: %s 75 Invalid callsignCallsign too long-%d/proc/net/ax25%d/%d/proc/net/appletalk/proc/sys/net/econetAddress family `%s' not supported. 76 No routing for address family `%s'. 77 default*netstattcpudprawgetaddrinfo: %s: %d 78 getnameinfo failed 79 [UNKNOWN]/proc/net/if_inet6/proc/net/ndiscND Tablend_printKernel IPv6 Neighbour Cache 80 %s:%s:%s:%s:%s:%s:%s:%s%s/%dUNKNOWN(%02x) %-9ld * %-7ld /proc/net/ipv6_routeKernel IPv6 routing table 81 %s: no support for `%s' on this system. 82 Neighbour HW Address Iface Flags Ref State 83 Neighbour HW Address Iface Flags Ref State Stale(sec) Delete(sec) 84 %4s%4s%4s%4s%4s%4s%4s%4s %02x %02x %02x %02x %08lx %08lx %08lx %04x %04x %04lx %8s %2s%2s%2s%2s%2s%2s 85 %-43s %-17s %-8s %-5s %-3d %-16sINET6 (IPv6) not configured in this system. 86 Destination Next Hop Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 87 %4s%4s%4s%4s%4s%4s%4s%4s %02x %4s%4s%4s%4s%4s%4s%4s%4s %02x %4s%4s%4s%4s%4s%4s%4s%4s %08x %08x %08x %08x %s 88 %-43s %-39s %-5s %-6d %-2d %7d %-8s 89 Usage: inet6_route [-vF] del Target 90 inet6_route [-vF] add Target [gw Gw] [metric M] [[dev] If] 91 inet6_route [-FC] flush NOT supported 92 Flushing `inet6' routing table not supported 93 metricgwgatewaymoddyndevicedevsocketSIOGIFINDEXSIOCDELRTSIOCADDRTNONE/proc/net/rt_cacheARPHHSpecDstHHUptodHHRefTOSIRTTKernel IP routing cache 94 WindowMTU%128sSourceMetricUseRefCnt%XFlagsGatewayDestination%16sIface/proc/net/routeKernel IP routing table 95 MaskINET (IPv4) not configured in this system. 96 ERROR: proc_guess_fmt(%s,... returned: %d 97 Source Destination Gateway Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 98 Source Destination Gateway Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 99 Source Destination Gateway Flags Metric Ref Use Iface MSS Window irtt HH Arp 100 Source Destination Gateway Flags Metric Ref Use Iface MSS Window irtt TOS HHRef HHUptod SpecDst 101 %-15s %-15s %-15s %-5s %-6d %-2d %7d %s 102 %-15s %-15s %-15s %-5s %5d %-5d %6d %s 103 %-15s %-15s %-15s %-5s %-6d %-3d %6d %-6.6s %-5d %-6d %-5d %-3d %d 104 %-15s %-15s %-15s %-5s %-6d %-3d %6d %-6.6s %-5d %-6d %-5d %-3d %-3d %-3d %15s 105 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 106 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 107 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface MSS Window irtt 108 %-15s - %-15s %-5s %-6d - %7d - 109 %-15s - %-15s %-5s - - - - 110 %-15s - %-15s %-5s %-6d - %7d - - - - 111 %-15s %-15s %-15s %-5s %-6d %-3d %6d %-6.6s %-5d %-6d %d 112 ÔøΩÔøΩÔøΩÔøΩÔøΩÔøΩ%08lX%02X%02X%02X%02X%02X%02X/proc/net/ipx%08lX:%02X%02X%02X%02X%02X%02X/proc/net/ipx_routeAF_IPX missinglib/ipx_rt.cKernel IPX routing table 113 %s %s %s%-25s %-25s %-25s 114 IPX not configured in this system. 115 Destination Router Net Router Node 116 /proc/net/nr/proc/net/nr_nodes/proc/net/nr_neighKernel NET/ROM routing table 117 %-9s %-7s %3d %-9s %s 118 NET/ROM not configured in this system. 119 Destination Mnemonic Quality Neighbour Iface 120 | 121 warning: %s does not contain required field %s 122 %02x%02x%02x%02x%02x/proc/net/roseNode address must be ten digits%02X-/proc/net/unixunspec%d.%d.%dout of virtual memory 123 Invalid address/proc/net/x25Address can't exceed eighteen digits with sigdigits/proc/net/x25_routesKernel X.25 routing table 124 Destination Iface 125 * %-5s 126 %s/%*d %-5s 127 X.25 not configured in this system. 128 Usage: x25_route [-v] del Target[/mask] [dev] If 129 x25_route [-v] add Target[/mask] [dev] If 130 Flushing `x25' routing table not supported 131 Modifying `x25' routing cache not supported 132 route: netmask doesn't match route address 133 route: bogus netmask %d 134 /proc/net/ax25_routeKernel AX.25 routing table 135 Destination Iface Use 136 %-9s %-5s %5d 137 AX.25 not configured in this system. 138 /proc/net/atalk_route%as %as %as %as 139 %-16s%-16s%-16s%-s 140 Error opening /proc/net/atalk_routeDDP (AppleTalk) not configured on this system. 141 Destination Gateway Device FlagsUsage: inet_route [-vF] del {-host|-net} Target[/prefix] [gw Gw] [metric M] [[dev] If] 142 inet_route [-vF] add {-host|-net} Target[/prefix] [gw Gw] [metric M] 143 [netmask N] [mss Mss] [window W] [irtt I] 144 [mod] [dyn] [reinstate] [[dev] If] 145 inet_route [-vF] add {-host|-net} Target[/prefix] [metric M] reject 146 inet_route [-FC] flush NOT supported 147 Flushing `inet' routing table not supported 148 Modifying `inet' routing cache not supported 149 route: %s: cannot use a NETWORK as gateway! 150 route: netmask %.8x doesn't make sense with host route 151 #net#hostnetmaskmssmturoute: Invalid MSS/MTU. 152 windowroute: Invalid window. 153 irttrejectreinstateloroute: bogus netmask %s 154 NONEdefaultIPX: this needs to be written 155 NET/ROM: this needs to be written 156 ÔøΩÔøΩÔøΩÔøΩÔøΩÔøΩÔøΩÔøΩ
 ÔøΩHÔøΩ$ÔøΩÔøΩÔøΩ 4 157 ÔøΩ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On 3/8/07, Andrew Edwards <edwards.andrew(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

Hi Richard - I'll try those things in a minute as I've stopped using Ubuntu 6.10 and have put a Knoppix 5.1.1 Live DVD in and it works!! Well this has now got me stumped as I was sure it was the router. The odd thing is if i go into network card configuration and specify DHCP - it sort of screws things up. GAIM won't connect, Conquerer will actually still work whereas Iceweasel wont! I have checked the /etc/resolv.conf and it does indeed give me the ip of the router. I will boot into Ubuntu again and stay on that to try your commands now that I can see another distro works... many thanks! On 3/8/07, Richard Smedley <smedley358(a)btinternet.com&gt; wrote:

Okay, I think I was on the right track - hence the suggestion on Ubuntu to try wget, then wget -4 iow I suspect that the problem lies with your router's attitude to IPv6 :-/ Recent Ubuntu releases default to IPv6 (which is a good thing), however your router may be one of the few that won't (save, perhaps, with a firmware upgrade) play nicely with IPv6. Try typing sudo apt-get update I bet it tells you it's waiting for [0,0,0,0] instead of 194.169.254.10, or whatever it should be. Firefox will default to IPv6 on Ubuntu and so will apt and wget - unless you use the -4 switch. Konqueror doesn't. If you actually install Ubuntu, instead of running it live, and can't alter your router, let us know on the list and I'll tell you how to remove IPv6 from Ubuntu & Firefox. "Andrew Edwards" wrote: That sounds like a less-than-ideal situation :-/ Cheers, - Richard -- Richard Smedley, rs(a)m6-it.org Technical Director, www.M6-IT.org A PRINCE2 aware company Web services * Back-ups * Support * Training & Certification * E-Mail M6-IT CIC ``Software Freedom for the Education and Voluntary Sector'' M6-IT is a Community Interest Company, limited by guarantee Registered in England & Wales, Registration No: 6040154 11 St Marks Road, Stourbridge, West Midlands, DY9 7DT