Hi All This post is really for the South Staffs guys but both Lug's might be interested? At the last minute, about 6.00pm, last night I discovered I had a "Get out of jail free" pass and headed off to the Wolves-Lug (Wolverhampton Linux User Group) meeting. Everyone was shocked to see me as I arrived unannounced and scurried off to hide wallets, purses and Christmas wish lists. I made a mistake in that I did not bring my Laptop along as the meeting evolved into a quasi 'show an tell' which was pretty cool IMO. Chris Procter and I had an interesting chat off the back of the latest LugRadio podcast about Distro comparisons, using 'what you are used too' and personal preferences e.g. KDE or Gnome browsers applications ect. Alex Willmer had a Fujitsu Amelio laptop with a broken screen which he was giving away, he was installing Ubuntu by using an external screen and I took great delight in scaring the life out of him by pretending the install had frozen, crashed and generally fecked up. :-) Adam Sweet gave away a supposedly (I've seen a mail this morning saying that it actually works) broken strawberry G3 iMac which was fun to watch four grown men spend 20 minutes taking it apart only to discover the replacement hard drive had been left at home. Lol As was to be expected I was surrounded by a sea of *The Brown Distro* which was another reason for me to regret not bring the one true faith of ArchLinux to this heathen coven I found myself in. Typically just as I was thinking of leaving Ron turned up, Ron and I have a mutual interest in all things 'Database' especially SugarCRM, ACT and so forth, but low did Ron have something far more interesting on his Laptop! The swine is running Nagios http://www.nagios.org/ I've tried three times to get a fully functional version running and failed. Installing is easy, getting it to, well, run is easy getting it to actually do something can be pretty painful its all about configuration files, as Ron said if you can get one to work your laughing. Ron appeared to be monitoring three quarters of the UK with his set up we all huddled round in a semi circle while he took us on a whirl wind ride round the West Midlands from server to server, firewalls, routers and and mysql machines. I really wanted to stay longer but had to go as it was way past my bed time. My thanks to Dave Morely for a pretty cool meeting, as I said if its at your place in two weeks I'll come along. -- Regards Dick Turpin http://www.cannon-linux.co.uk Arch Linux is an independent i686-optimized community distribution for intermediate and advanced Linux users. Utilising a Rolling Release System packages are regularly updated and an ISO release is just a snapshot to the stable packages at that time. So there's no need for a fresh install the command 'pacman –Syu' upgrades the whole system.