I had to do it didn't I? I had to brag about how good my Ubuntu box is in the workshop... Well, it's died!!!! Though, to be fair it's not Ubuntu it's actually hardware. Trouble is I'm not sure what. The CPU fan comes on so some power is getting through the PSU. None of the optical drive bays will open or even flicker the power light so, no power to them. I haven't yet had the multimeter on the PSU. I have swapped it out only to have the same happen with another one that I thought was a good 'un. I've swapped out the CPU... still the same. No cap's are blown on the motherboard but I'm starting to think motherboard now :-( I have some things to try but any suggestions are welcome as to what to look at next. -- ============================================== Kevan Linux user #373362 Staffordshire ********************************************** www.freeworld-recycling.org 'From me to you towards a sustainable future.' **********************************************