Hi All I discovered this week that contributing and even trying to get involved can have 'enthusiasm destroying consequences' some of you may remember I was/am, possibly, working on a Lug Finder well the news is I've had to remove it for the time being. Don't ask me how but some nice person discovered a back door through it and plonked billions of referrers to ring tones, porn and endless drivel in the folder. Every time I spent 3 days and 30 minutes a time removing them and the phplogger.php file the next day back they came, at the last count it was 700+ links, I think I've sorted it now. Then I asked to have my site listed on one of those 'Planet' sites (I'm already on one or two by the way) which are growing in popularity only to have the door slammed in my face with the most condescending responses I've had in a long time; Quote: End quote. "Did you even look at my site you self opinionated $%£@$£!!!!" The best of that one is most of the feeds are about what someone eat for dinner last night or where they went on holiday. Now I hold my hand up and admit I'm a bit of a Victor Meldrew when it comes to websites and stuff like that I mean why the 'F' do I want to know if your dog had pups last night? its the same when people stick them banners and balloons all over their house "Happy 21st Leanne" what the hell makes you think I want to know that? Mind you I suppose Burglars love it you might as well stick the sign up saying "Hey guys lots of goodies here" (Hm I'm drifting) I've had one or two other knock backs as well but I have to be careful as there are sharp objects here. The thing is I cant seem to square the so called 'Community spirit' with my enthusiasm at the moment. This is not the first time that I've personally experienced what I term "The Inner Circle" syndrome. the guy that first promoted Free Software was on clickonline (Radio4) Wednesday night and he said the most profound thing that will stick with me. "Even just using the software is contributing". Theres two views that can be taken here; 1. Don't stick your head above the parapet, someone will knock it off. 2. Don't let the buggers grind you down. I'm now off to kick a small puppy and eat an endangered species. -- Dick Turpin "At theses prices I'm mugging myself!"