2:12 p.m.
Having just taken windows xp off my PC, and installed ubuntu witch works great. But i do
have a problem. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT. I cannot install things like web-cam, Internet TV
for football, etc is there a Linux o/s more like windows to get me started as i do not
want to go back to windows but may have to please help
simon law
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Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:00:56 +0000
From: "Carl Struyk" <carl(a)struyk.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Staffslug] DNS problem [was Re: Unanswerable Question]
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Hi Richard - I'll try those things in a minute as I've stopped using
Ubuntu 6.10 and have put a Knoppix 5.1.1 Live DVD in and it works!!
Well this has now got me stumped as I was sure it was the router. The
odd thing is if i go into network card configuration and specify DHCP
- it sort of screws things up. GAIM won't connect, Conquerer will
actually still work whereas Iceweasel wont!
I have checked the /etc/resolv.conf and it does indeed give me the ip
of the router. I will boot into Ubuntu again and stay on that to try
your commands now that I can see another distro works...
many thanks!
On 3/8/07, Richard Smedley <smedley358(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
Hello Carl,
> If I look in etc/init.d/networking it shows me just some scripting for
> enabling/disabling the interface - no settings for DHCP/DNS etc. in
> there. I don't have a file named net.eth0 or eth1.
What distro are you using?
Although Ubuntu and similar expose DNS info through GNOME's
``networking'' GUI in the admin menu, to see where your PC
is looking for DNS, type:
cat /etc/resolv.conf
which should return your router address.
If it returns nothing, add in a DNS server here
(e.g. 208.67.222.222) with
echo "208.67.222.222" >> /etc/resolv.conf
Be warned that Ubuntu will not retain this.
Do you get this problem with Konqueror as well as
Firefox/Iceweasel?
WGET? What about wget -4 ?
> If I go into the
> settings for the card (in the GUI) I can see that it has picked up the
> IP and broadcast address. If I manually input the IP, SM and gateway
> - it still doesn't work. net-setup (command not found). dhcpd
> (command not found).
sudo dhclient
- Richard
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Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:14:52 +0000
From: "Andrew Edwards" <edwards.andrew(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Staffslug] DNS problem [was Re: Unanswerable Question]
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thanks for taking that one richard, i think it shows that i just
booted my freebsd box for the first time in about 6 or more months!
LOL scary thing is, it's probably been longer since i used linux
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:45:54 +0000
From: Richard Smedley <smedley358(a)btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: [Staffslug] DNS problem [was Re: Unanswerable Question]
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Hi Richard - I'll try those things in a minute as I've
stopped using
Ubuntu 6.10 and have put a Knoppix 5.1.1 Live DVD in and it works!!
Well this has now got me stumped as I was sure it was the router. The
odd thing is if i go into network card configuration and specify DHCP
- it sort of screws things up. GAIM won't connect, Conquerer will
actually still work whereas Iceweasel wont!
Okay, I think I was on the right track - hence the suggestion on
Ubuntu to try wget, then wget -4
iow I suspect that the problem lies with your router's attitude
to IPv6 :-/
Recent Ubuntu releases default to IPv6 (which is a good thing),
however your router may be one of the few that won't (save,
perhaps, with a firmware upgrade) play nicely with IPv6.
Try typing sudo apt-get update
I bet it tells you it's waiting for [0,0,0,0] instead of
194.169.254.10, or whatever it should be.
Firefox will default to IPv6 on Ubuntu and so will apt and
wget - unless you use the -4 switch.
Konqueror doesn't.
If you actually install Ubuntu, instead of running it live,
and can't alter your router, let us know on the list and
I'll tell you how to remove IPv6 from Ubuntu & Firefox.
"Andrew Edwards" wrote:
thanks for taking that one richard, i think it shows that i just
booted my freebsd box for the first time in about 6 or more months!
LOL scary thing is, it's probably been longer since i used linux
That sounds like a less-than-ideal situation :-/
Cheers,
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 10:34:27 +0000
From: Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Staffslug] Logo...
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Kris, that is excellent :-) May I enquire where you got the
Staffordshire knot design? Is it legal to use? I need a
Staffordshire Knot logo myself but can't find a legal to use one....
:-(
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Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 10:41:04 +0000
From: "Kris Douglas" <webbox.uk(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Staffslug] Logo...
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I'll send ya the vector
On 09/03/07, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Kris, that is excellent :-) May I enquire where you got the
Staffordshire knot design? Is it legal to use? I need a
Staffordshire Knot logo myself but can't find a legal to use one....
:-(
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2:31 p.m.
On 09/03/07, simon law <simonjohnlaw(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Having just taken windows xp off my PC, and installed ubuntu witch works
great. But i do have a problem. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT. I cannot install
things like web-cam, Internet TV for football, etc is there a Linux o/s more
like windows to get me started as i do not want to go back to windows but
may have to please help
simon law
PLEASE REPLY TO
simonjohnlaw(a)yahoo.co.uk
sijohnlaw(a)talktalk.net
THANK YOU
Hi Simon. Firstly, don't blame Linux for those odds and sods not
working, that's down to the manufacturers I'm afraid. If the
manufacturers don't write a driver for Windows then they wouldn't work
with that OS either. So, if you have a problem with a particular
peripheral try a Google search first just entering the name of the
peripheral and it's model number. Try this instead of the general
Google search:
http://www.google.com/linux
Now, software... Again, Linux is not Windows :-) I know, it sounds a
daft thing to say but they really are only similar in that they will
both work as an operating system, that's as far as any similarity
goes. However, there are some distro's that are made to look and have
a similar manner of doing things as Windows does. This does not mean
that they will run software designed for Windows, it's diiferent.
It's like putting diesel into your petrol engined car and expecting it
to work. But there is a work around :-) There are programs that can
be installed into Linux to work as a sort of layer that fools the
software into tinking it is running on a Windows machine. It does
this with the use of some very cleverly written code. You have a
choice of:
WINE - WINE IS Not an Emulator which is free
CrossOver Linux (it used to be called CrossOver Office) which is paid for
or, if you are into gaming, there is Cedega.
Each one of these will run various Windows programs with varying
degrees of success. Don't be fooled into thinking that if you go for
the purchased variety that it will work better than WINE; it's not
always like that :-)
Perhaps if you could tell us a bit more about the things (hardware)
that doesn't yet work and the software you would like to run under
Linux then we might be able to help a bit more :-) hopefully...
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2:41 p.m.
On 09/03/07, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Perhaps if you could tell us a bit more about the things (hardware)
that doesn't yet work and the software you would like to run under
Linux then we might be able to help a bit more :-) hopefully...
And try not to respond in 'digest mode' either or HTML (If you can
help it) I nearly died when that lot burst on my screen.
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2:42 p.m.
On 09/03/07, Dick Turpin <highwayman.turpin(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 09/03/07, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps if you could tell us a bit more about the things (hardware)
> that doesn't yet work and the software you would like to run under
> Linux then we might be able to help a bit more :-) hopefully...
And try not to respond in 'digest mode' either or HTML (If you can
help it) I nearly died when that lot burst on my screen.
I'm used to big graphical representations now ;-))))
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2:45 p.m.
> And try not to respond in 'digest mode' either or HTML
(If you can
> help it) I nearly died when that lot burst on my screen.
MY EYES MY EYES!
i still say ubuntu isn't the best newbie distro, i used to like fedora
(then redhat).. and i moved onto 2004.2 gentoo iirc, but gentoo is
dead to me now..
3:02 p.m.
On 09/03/07, Andrew Edwards <edwards.andrew(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > And try not to respond in 'digest mode' either or
HTML (If you can
> > help it) I nearly died when that lot burst on my screen.
MY EYES MY EYES!
i still say ubuntu isn't the best newbie distro, i used to like fedora
(then redhat).. and i moved onto 2004.2 gentoo iirc, but gentoo is
dead to me now..
PCLinux or Mandriva :-) both excellent for newcomers.
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3:08 p.m.
On 09/03/07, Andrew Edwards <edwards.andrew(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > And try not to respond in 'digest mode' either or
HTML (If you can
> > help it) I nearly died when that lot burst on my screen.
MY EYES MY EYES!
Thank god for text-speak I've got temporary blindness!
i still say ubuntu isn't the best newbie distro, i used to like
fedora
(then redhat).. and i moved onto 2004.2 gentoo iirc, but gentoo is
dead to me now..
Its a real shame I still reckon Mandriva (Mandrake as was) is the best
for learners (Don't use newbie it makes my blood boil) but after the
first month you're stuffed for Mandriva updates unless you pay for
them.
Gentoo is too advanced for 1st timers, Fedora (IMO) is too bleeding
edge opensuse is OK but the file layout and management systems then
taint you for Red Hat derivatives.
The first choice I honestly think people need to have explained is
that in effect they have two starting points; either an RPM or .deb
based system, now their not gonna know how too choose on that one. I'd
promote RPM but then thats not fair as I don't like .deb that much.
If you go down the .deb path I reckon Mepis is pretty good for ex
Windows bods for RPM I'd probably give Mandriva a go until the
updates expire.
[Please note how I didn't say "Stick opensuse or Fedora on it"]
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8:17 p.m.
Not necessarily...it depends on hardware
On 09/03/07, stuart bell <sailing1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Snipped all the nonsense.
PCLinuxOS. Everything works out of the box.
Stuart
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I agree, i would love to help you get your pc upto a moderate level of
opperation...
On 09/03/07, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 09/03/07, simon law <simonjohnlaw(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Having just taken windows xp off my PC, and installed ubuntu witch works
> great. But i do have a problem. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT. I cannot install
> things like web-cam, Internet TV for football, etc is there a Linux o/s
more
> like windows to get me started as i do not want to go back to windows
but
> may have to please help
> simon law
> PLEASE REPLY TO
> simonjohnlaw(a)yahoo.co.uk
> sijohnlaw(a)talktalk.net
> THANK YOU
>
Hi Simon. Firstly, don't blame Linux for those odds and sods not
working, that's down to the manufacturers I'm afraid. If the
manufacturers don't write a driver for Windows then they wouldn't work
with that OS either. So, if you have a problem with a particular
peripheral try a Google search first just entering the name of the
peripheral and it's model number. Try this instead of the general
Google search:
http://www.google.com/linux
Now, software... Again, Linux is not Windows :-) I know, it sounds a
daft thing to say but they really are only similar in that they will
both work as an operating system, that's as far as any similarity
goes. However, there are some distro's that are made to look and have
a similar manner of doing things as Windows does. This does not mean
that they will run software designed for Windows, it's diiferent.
It's like putting diesel into your petrol engined car and expecting it
to work. But there is a work around :-) There are programs that can
be installed into Linux to work as a sort of layer that fools the
software into tinking it is running on a Windows machine. It does
this with the use of some very cleverly written code. You have a
choice of:
WINE - WINE IS Not an Emulator which is free
CrossOver Linux (it used to be called CrossOver Office) which is paid for
or, if you are into gaming, there is Cedega.
Each one of these will run various Windows programs with varying
degrees of success. Don't be fooled into thinking that if you go for
the purchased variety that it will work better than WINE; it's not
always like that :-)
Perhaps if you could tell us a bit more about the things (hardware)
that doesn't yet work and the software you would like to run under
Linux then we might be able to help a bit more :-) hopefully...
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6:53 p.m.
New subject: More free PCs available
Hi all,
I have more PCs to give away. Roughly speaking, there are three PII-class
machines. There's an AMD K6 500 MHz, a Celeron 333 MHz and something else
which I think is a Pentium II. They either have 128 MB or 192 MB of RAM
each. The Celeron 333 is in a rather nice desktop case, the K6 has a fair
case (but it's AT), and the PII's case is ugly. I have one or two sets of
keyboards and mice I can throw in. They would be fine for machines to do
non-demanding work. They may have a few minor problems like missing
blanking plates, etc.
Are they of interest to anyone? I'd like to get rid of them within the
next week or so. They need to be collected from Edgmond Common, postcode
TF10 8ES. E-mail me if you need any further details of the systems. You
might not get a response tonight as I'll be re-installing my OS.
Hope to hear from people soon.
Best wishes,
Chris
8:15 p.m.
New subject: More free PCs available
What kind of case are these machines in?
On 09/03/07, Christopher Tidy <cdt22(a)cantabgold.net> wrote:
Hi all,
I have more PCs to give away. Roughly speaking, there are three PII-class
machines. There's an AMD K6 500 MHz, a Celeron 333 MHz and something else
which I think is a Pentium II. They either have 128 MB or 192 MB of RAM
each. The Celeron 333 is in a rather nice desktop case, the K6 has a fair
case (but it's AT), and the PII's case is ugly. I have one or two sets of
keyboards and mice I can throw in. They would be fine for machines to do
non-demanding work. They may have a few minor problems like missing
blanking plates, etc.
Are they of interest to anyone? I'd like to get rid of them within the
next week or so. They need to be collected from Edgmond Common, postcode
TF10 8ES. E-mail me if you need any further details of the systems. You
might not get a response tonight as I'll be re-installing my OS.
Hope to hear from people soon.
Best wishes,
Chris
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