3:57 p.m.
.... I did something not so much silly but perhaps a little
shortsighted the other day. Remember I set up Kubuntu 7.04 on a spare
PC the other day? Well, being as it was supposedly only an experiment
I only used a 6gb drive :-( Consequently I don't have all that much
room on it. What I'd like to do is move the whole lot, as it is, over
to an 80gb drive that I now have spare (just put a 500gb in the main
PC).
So, what's the best way of going about doing this? I have plenty of
Live CD's knocking such as the latest stable Knoppix. Yes, I'll even
use the CLI for once if I have to ;-)
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4:25 p.m.
Google for moving OS from one disk to a larger drive using DD and
fdisk.There are some quite comprehensive guides out there. I use DD
reasonably regularly for moving M$ partitions.
Tools like partedmagic might well be most suited but I just use Knoppix.
To be entirely frank with you though, unless you are interested in the
exercise itself, the quickest option might be a separate install. I speak
from grim experience!
Chris.
On 01/10/2007, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
.... I did something not so much silly but perhaps a little
shortsighted the other day. Remember I set up Kubuntu 7.04 on a spare
PC the other day? Well, being as it was supposedly only an experiment
I only used a 6gb drive :-( Consequently I don't have all that much
room on it. What I'd like to do is move the whole lot, as it is, over
to an 80gb drive that I now have spare (just put a 500gb in the main
PC).
So, what's the best way of going about doing this? I have plenty of
Live CD's knocking such as the latest stable Knoppix. Yes, I'll even
use the CLI for once if I have to ;-)
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4:28 p.m.
On Mon, October 1, 2007 3:57 pm, Kevanf1 wrote:
So, what's the best way of going about doing this? I have plenty
of
PartImage [1] will do it no trouble - create an image, then restore it
onto the new hard drive. It will handle the fact that the new hard drive
is bigger automagically.
Easiest way is to run it from the SystemRescueCD Live CD [2]
Russ
[1] http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page
[2] http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
5:26 p.m.
Cheers for the suggestions :-) Very much appreciated. I shall be
looking at the various options tomorrow morning. If you hear screams
it may just be me ;-)
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4:08 p.m.
Another how do I.... :-)
I have hooked up my Maxtor external drive to the Kubuntu box. It's a
USB drive and has mounted etc. Drive designation is sda1 and is
currently mounted under /media/external. Checking as root through the
shell I can see all the files. I ran the ls command to get that. But
I can't access them as a normal user. At this point I ran ls -l to
check the permissions. Ok, it appears that root alone has read
properties:
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2007-09-20 18:20 cdrom -> cdrom0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-09-20 18:20 cdrom0
dr-x------ 1 root root 8192 2007-10-01 20:27 external
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2007-09-20 18:20 floppy -> floppy0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-09-20 18:20 floppy0
I have tried <chmod 777 external> this was of course while in the
/media directory as /external is within /media.
I got this:
chmod: changing permissions of `external': Read-only file system
root@kev-kubuntu-PC:/media# ls -l
total 16
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2007-09-20 18:20 cdrom -> cdrom0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-09-20 18:20 cdrom0
dr-x------ 1 root root 8192 2007-10-01 20:27 external
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2007-09-20 18:20 floppy -> floppy0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-09-20 18:20 floppy0
Any ideas of where I have gone wrong? Before anybody says it yes, I
am very rusty.
By the way, the line I added in fstab is as follows:
/dev/sda1 /media/external ntfs rw,user,noauto 0 0
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4:18 p.m.
On 02/10/2007, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Another how do I.... :-)
Then create a new thread you swine!
I have hooked up my Maxtor external drive to the Kubuntu box. It's a
USB drive and has mounted etc. Drive designation is sda1 and is
currently mounted under /media/external. Checking as root through the
shell I can see all the files. I ran the ls command to get that. But
I can't access them as a normal user. At this point I ran ls -l to
check the permissions. Ok, it appears that root alone has read
properties:
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2007-09-20 18:20 cdrom -> cdrom0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-09-20 18:20 cdrom0
dr-x------ 1 root root 8192 2007-10-01 20:27 external
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2007-09-20 18:20 floppy -> floppy0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-09-20 18:20 floppy0
I have tried <chmod 777 external> this was of course while in the
/media directory as /external is within /media.
I got this:
chmod: changing permissions of `external': Read-only file system
root@kev-kubuntu-PC:/media# ls -l
total 16
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2007-09-20 18:20 cdrom -> cdrom0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-09-20 18:20 cdrom0
dr-x------ 1 root root 8192 2007-10-01 20:27 external
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2007-09-20 18:20 floppy -> floppy0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-09-20 18:20 floppy0
Any ideas of where I have gone wrong? Before anybody says it yes, I
am very rusty.
By the way, the line I added in fstab is as follows:
/dev/sda1 /media/external ntfs rw,user,noauto 0 0
I keep hearing default in my head default,rw,user,noauto but I think that's
wrong?
Silly question have you tried un-mounting then remounting ("Have you tried
switching it off and on again?")
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4:34 p.m.
On 02/10/2007, ArchLinuxUser dick_turpin <dick_turpin(a)archlinux.us> wrote:
On 02/10/2007, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Another how do I.... :-)
Then create a new thread you swine!
Well yes.... but, it is actually all related to the main 'how do I'
thread. I was going to save ghosted image of the current system onto
the 200gb external drive.
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4:18 p.m.
as root:
chown -R normaluser:normaluser /media/external
where normaluser is your regular login username.
Chris.
On 02/10/2007, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Another how do I.... :-)
I have hooked up my Maxtor external drive to the Kubuntu box. It's a
USB drive and has mounted etc. Drive designation is sda1 and is
currently mounted under /media/external. Checking as root through the
shell I can see all the files. I ran the ls command to get that. But
I can't access them as a normal user. At this point I ran ls -l to
check the permissions. Ok, it appears that root alone has read
properties:
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2007-09-20 18:20 cdrom -> cdrom0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-09-20 18:20 cdrom0
dr-x------ 1 root root 8192 2007-10-01 20:27 external
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2007-09-20 18:20 floppy -> floppy0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-09-20 18:20 floppy0
I have tried <chmod 777 external> this was of course while in the
/media directory as /external is within /media.
I got this:
chmod: changing permissions of `external': Read-only file system
root@kev-kubuntu-PC:/media# ls -l
total 16
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2007-09-20 18:20 cdrom -> cdrom0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-09-20 18:20 cdrom0
dr-x------ 1 root root 8192 2007-10-01 20:27 external
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2007-09-20 18:20 floppy -> floppy0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-09-20 18:20 floppy0
Any ideas of where I have gone wrong? Before anybody says it yes, I
am very rusty.
By the way, the line I added in fstab is as follows:
/dev/sda1 /media/external ntfs rw,user,noauto 0 0
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4:21 p.m.
Failing that just try
chown -R normaluser /media/external
On 02/10/2007, Chris Snow <cr.snow(a)gmail.com> wrote:
as root:
chown -R normaluser:normaluser /media/external
where normaluser is your regular login username.
Chris.
On 02/10/2007, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Another how do I.... :-)
>
> I have hooked up my Maxtor external drive to the Kubuntu box. It's a
> USB drive and has mounted etc. Drive designation is sda1 and is
> currently mounted under /media/external. Checking as root through the
> shell I can see all the files. I ran the ls command to get that. But
> I can't access them as a normal user. At this point I ran ls -l to
> check the permissions. Ok, it appears that root alone has read
> properties:
>
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2007-09-20 18:20 cdrom -> cdrom0
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-09-20 18:20 cdrom0
> dr-x------ 1 root root 8192 2007-10-01 20:27 external
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2007-09-20 18:20 floppy -> floppy0
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-09-20 18:20 floppy0
>
> I have tried <chmod 777 external> this was of course while in the
> /media directory as /external is within /media.
>
> I got this:
>
> chmod: changing permissions of `external': Read-only file system
> root@kev-kubuntu-PC:/media# ls -l
> total 16
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 2007-09-20 18:20 cdrom -> cdrom0
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-09-20 18:20 cdrom0
> dr-x------ 1 root root 8192 2007-10-01 20:27 external
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 2007-09-20 18:20 floppy -> floppy0
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-09-20 18:20 floppy0
>
> Any ideas of where I have gone wrong? Before anybody says it yes, I
> am very rusty.
>
> By the way, the line I added in fstab is as follows:
>
> /dev/sda1 /media/external ntfs rw,user,noauto 0 0
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4:36 p.m.
On 02/10/2007, Chris Snow <cr.snow(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Failing that just try
chown -R normaluser /media/external
On 02/10/2007, Chris Snow <cr.snow(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> as root:
>
> chown -R normaluser:normaluser /media/external
>
> where normaluser is your regular login username.
>
> Chris.
>
Righto, I shall give that a try tomorrow. I didn't see the '-R' tag
anywhere when I was searching for the answer - yes, I have spent most
of the afternoon trying to find out myself before asking on here - so
what does that (-R) mean?
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5:38 p.m.
From the man page:
-R Descends directories recursively, changing the ownership for each
file. When a symbolic link is encountered and the link points to a
directory, the ownership of that directory is changed but the directory
is not further transversed.
On 02/10/2007, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 02/10/2007, Chris Snow <cr.snow(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Failing that just try
>
> chown -R normaluser /media/external
>
>
> On 02/10/2007, Chris Snow <cr.snow(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > as root:
> >
> > chown -R normaluser:normaluser /media/external
> >
> > where normaluser is your regular login username.
> >
> > Chris.
> >
Righto, I shall give that a try tomorrow. I didn't see the '-R' tag
anywhere when I was searching for the answer - yes, I have spent most
of the afternoon trying to find out myself before asking on here - so
what does that (-R) mean?
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On 02/10/2007, Chris Snow <cr.snow(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>From the man page:
-R Descends directories recursively, changing the ownership for each
file. When a symbolic link is encountered and the link points to a
directory, the ownership of that directory is changed but the directory
is not further transversed.
It didn't work :-( yet a standard USB key mounted ok????
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6:16 p.m.
Well, that reaches the limit of my knowledge! You ran the chown as root right?
On 02/10/2007, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 02/10/2007, Chris Snow <cr.snow(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >From the man page:
>
> -R Descends directories recursively, changing the ownership for each
> file. When a symbolic link is encountered and the link points to a
> directory, the ownership of that directory is changed but the directory
> is not further transversed.
>
It didn't work :-( yet a standard USB key mounted ok????
u
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On 02/10/2007, Chris Snow <cr.snow(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Well, that reaches the limit of my knowledge! You ran the chown as
root right?
Yes. I ran the Konsole and then went in as super user. It did appear
to make changes to all the files on the hard drive. So it did
something. The peculiar things is that the USB key mounted at the
same place and was instantly fully read and writable. The
difference..... it's FAT32 format while the HDD is ntfs. I do of
course have ntfs3 enabled. I can also get at the stuff as root so it
does mount and it is purely a permissions thing. This is perhaps the
only stumbling block I have with this. I think it's time to take it
to the Kubuntu forums..
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9:25 p.m.
FAT32 does not have support for permissions. Are you certain you are
mounting the NTFS volume as rw? That may be the key.
On 02/10/2007, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 02/10/2007, Chris Snow <cr.snow(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, that reaches the limit of my knowledge! You ran the chown as root
right?
>
Yes. I ran the Konsole and then went in as super user. It did appear
to make changes to all the files on the hard drive. So it did
something. The peculiar things is that the USB key mounted at the
same place and was instantly fully read and writable. The
difference..... it's FAT32 format while the HDD is ntfs. I do of
course have ntfs3 enabled. I can also get at the stuff as root so it
does mount and it is purely a permissions thing. This is perhaps the
only stumbling block I have with this. I think it's time to take it
to the Kubuntu forums..
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3:54 p.m.
On 02/10/2007, Chris Snow <cr.snow(a)gmail.com> wrote:
FAT32 does not have support for permissions. Are you certain you are
mounting the NTFS volume as rw? That may be the key.
Check my earlier entry that I posted from my fstab file :-)
Anyway, it wasn't that. I have finally had access of sorts. For
starters I wasn't a member of the 'fuse' group. I feel that this is
an oversight on the part of the developers to not automatically
include new users into this group. After all, there are going to be
plenty of newcomers to Linux who have XP which is (or should be) ntfs
formatted. I know it can be run as FAT32....
So, after much messing about I have had enough. I wanted to transfer
the OS to the 80gb drive. I'm not going to. I shall re-install from
scratch and have to endure all the dowloading with the updates :-(
The reason, I hear you cry? Because I'm left with a right mess such
as an icon on the desktop that even root cannot clear and bits of
gubbins all over the place.
The problem is I'm a SuSE man so I'm used to messing about with fstab.
This is the reason it's become buggered apparently, I shouldn't have
touched fstab at all!!!
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4:13 p.m.
On 03/10/2007, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The problem is I'm a SuSE man so I'm used to messing about with fstab.
This is the reason it's become buggered apparently, I
shouldn't have
touched fstab at all!!!
So much for "Everything is a file" and what's this "Shouldn't touch
fstab" ?
Um I'll bite me lip
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10:25 a.m.
On 03/10/2007, ArchLinuxUser dick_turpin <dick_turpin(a)archlinux.us> wrote:
On 03/10/2007, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> The problem is I'm a SuSE man so I'm used to messing about with fstab.
> This is the reason it's become buggered apparently, I shouldn't have
> touched fstab at all!!!
So much for "Everything is a file" and what's this "Shouldn't
touch fstab" ?
Um I'll bite me lip
No, apparently that is the perceived wisdom of the Kubuntu forums.
Plug the drive into a USB port and let the system do it all. No
touching the fstab file. I know, it doesn't seem right to me either.
Of course, we shouldn'y get confused with adding a permanent drive as
that would need fstab editing...possibly. But, on the other hand, who
on Earth would be adding a permanent drive to a Linux box that was
ntfs formatted? If there is a reason I'd love to hear it :-)
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9:41 p.m.
Well if you can get it as root then why not archive it off somewhere,
format the disk as ext3 and extract the archive to it?
On 02/10/2007, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 02/10/2007, Chris Snow <cr.snow(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, that reaches the limit of my knowledge! You ran the chown as root right?
>
Yes. I ran the Konsole and then went in as super user. It did appear
to make changes to all the files on the hard drive. So it did
something. The peculiar things is that the USB key mounted at the
same place and was instantly fully read and writable. The
difference..... it's FAT32 format while the HDD is ntfs. I do of
course have ntfs3 enabled. I can also get at the stuff as root so it
does mount and it is purely a permissions thing. This is perhaps the
only stumbling block I have with this. I think it's time to take it
to the Kubuntu forums..
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3:57 p.m.
On 02/10/2007, Chris Snow <cr.snow(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Well if you can get it as root then why not archive it off
somewhere,
format the disk as ext3 and extract the archive to it?
Nowhere big enough to archive that one. It is the archive disk.
Formatting as Ext3, however tempting is not an option as I have to
hook this particular external drive up to an XP machine. Not just
mine either so adding ext3 support is possible on my PC but not on
everybody else's that I support...
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