...is that the BSDanywhere live CD works a treat. It's a bit slow compared to the other live disks I've been trying (it's like being a kid given the keys to the sweetshop) but it does work. Web access is fine as can be seen as this is being sent via Firefox running on BSDanywhere. The bad news however.... I thought I'd give the live USB stick another go. Nope, stumbles at the first block. I have USB-FDD, USB-HDD, USB-Zip and USB-CD as option in my BIOS so I would have hoped that it would work. It doesn't, on USB-CD and USB-HDD I get 'invalid disk, press any key to continue' coming up. It then goes straight to the next boot option. The other BIOS options don't even give that simply going to the next valid disk available and booting from that (hard drive in this case). If anybody is interested the USB stick is a Den Elec 2gb 'blue pill' model. It has been formatted and installed exactly according to the letter from the pendrive linux site <http://www.pendrivelinux.com/> utilising Kubuntu 8.10 All the messages came up positive while the system was installing. I may one day try a true USB-HDD to boot from. Just to see if that option does work. For now I am left USB stick bootless on this PC. Maybe when I upgrade...eventually. -- ============================================== Kevan Farmer Linux user #373362 Staffordshire