Yep. i386 desktop runs way better on my old acer. On 11 October 2010 18:20, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > Has anybody tried or upgraded to Ubuntu 10.10 yet?  I tried it on my > old Proliant ML 330e.  It buggered it :-(  It ran fine with 10.04 but > as soon as 10.10 tried to start all I can get is a CLI instead of my > usual GUI.  From the error message I'm getting it seems it must be > something to do with the video driver.  The message is: > > Fatal server error: no screens found > > Then after that > > xinit:No such file or directory (errno2) > xinit:No such process errno3: server error > > Guess what?  I'm stumped.  I shall check the log file at > /var/log/Xorg.0.log but it might well be written in Arabic for me. > > Looks like going back to 10.04 > -- > ============================================== > > Kevan > Linux user #373362 > Staffordshire > ********************************************** > www.freeworld-recycling.org > > 'From me to you towards a sustainable future.' > ********************************************** >

Can you post the Xorg log here? I'm sure someone will decode it for you.

Yes i've installed it on my development machine intel dual core using the x86_64 version.

Another cool thing about the installation is that you can click on the process arrow and it shows the terminal process. You might have been able to do this in earlier versions ?

It feels quicker and looks slicker than 10.04. I never turn on the Compiz effects as I find it slows it down to much, I use metacity effects using "Ubuntu Tweaks". What I have noticed is that if I turn on Metacity compositing effects, Tuxcart has a noticable lag to it and is unplayable. Where as in 10.04 metacity compositing didnt effect Tuxcart game.

Another difference is that there is now a bottom and right edge auto scroll bars on most of the system apps eg "Disc Utility" which I sure were not there before. I realise this is for the netbook users but its abit distracting.

The new floppy-to-the-right font is different, not sure about it yet.

On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 12:10 +0100, Eugene Quinn wrote: > I never turn on the Compiz > effects as I find it slows it down to much, I use metacity effects > using > "Ubuntu Tweaks". What I have noticed is that if I turn on Metacity > compositing effects, Tuxcart has a noticable lag to it and is > unplayable. > Where as in 10.04 metacity compositing didnt effect Tuxcart game. Could you post the output of: glxinfo | egrep 'OpenGL|render' lspci | grep -i vga I may be able to offer some help on GPU performance. :) > Another difference is that there is now a bottom and right edge auto > scroll > bars on most of the system apps eg "Disc Utility" which I sure were > not > there before. I realise this is for the netbook users but its abit > distracting. I've just had a look - you can resize the window to make it bigger? I guess it depends on your resolution, but with the window resized to display without a requirement for scroll-bars, they disappeared completely. Tom _______________________________________________ Staffslug mailing list Staffslug(a)staffslug.org.uk http://lists.staffslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/staffslug

On 13 October 2010 22:56, Eugene Quinn <eug.quinn(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > To be honest its a pretty rubbish graphics card, the PC's been cobbled > together from parts out of the attic. Its probably from about 2005. > > I've had motherboards that have had better onboard chips than this card. But > it has got a non-motorised heatsink. > > Eugene > Isn't it more fun this way?  :-)  To try to squeeze as much performance out of old and ancient kit as we can.  For me it's like sticking two fingers up at Microsoft, despite the fact that I do use XP and admit that I quite like it.  But then I ran Millenium with no problems.... -- ============================================== Kevan Linux user #373362 Staffordshire ********************************************** www.freeworld-recycling.org 'From me to you towards a sustainable future.' ********************************************** _______________________________________________ Staffslug mailing list Staffslug(a)staffslug.org.uk http://lists.staffslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/staffslug

To be fair, if it works, it works. Extra speed is often just a nice-to-have. Though never underestimate how important the speed of your disk I/O is to the perceived 'desktop experience'. :)

> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM)/PCI/SSE2 > OpenGL version string: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 195.36.24 > OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20 NVIDIA via Cg compiler > OpenGL extensions: > GL_NVX_conditional_render, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_texture_lod, > Looks like you're using the 6200TC with one of the multiple legacy Nvidia binary-blob drivers -- likely installed via the 'Additional Drivers' dialogue -- which is mostly unmaintained in favour of the 256.x series. As far as I am aware, only the 8xxxx-series cards and above are supported by this release. > eugene@testrig:~$ lspci | grep -i vga > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44 [GeForce 6200 > TurboCache(TM)] (rev a1) So this is an NV4x chip (its codename) therefore you may find that the open-source (reverse-engineered) Nouveau driver is a better fit for your uses. The feature matrix can be found here (see the NV4x column): http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix One thing you can take advantage of with Nouveau, that you won't find with the binary blobs, is Kernel Mode Setting. Smoother boot-up and smarter terminal switching.. Adds to the experience. Worth de-installing the Nvidia binary-blob from the 'Additional Driver' dialogue to try out Nouveau - it will be the default 'out of the box' driver for your card in Ubuntu. > To be honest its a pretty rubbish graphics card, the PC's been cobbled > together from parts out of the attic. Its probably from about 2005. > > I've had motherboards that have had better onboard chips than this card. But > it has got a non-motorised heatsink. Peace and quiet in a computer is worth a lot, if you ask me. To be fair, if it works, it works. Extra speed is often just a nice-to-have. Though never underestimate how important the speed of your disk I/O is to the perceived 'desktop experience'. :) Tom _______________________________________________ Staffslug mailing list Staffslug(a)staffslug.org.uk http://lists.staffslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/staffslug