Adam, Andrew, Tom, Sorry for the spam-esk mail, I know it's not wonderful and I did doubts of doing it, however I know that LUG's know how difficult it is to get the word out there some times.. Why just Joomla?  Simply because we are all Joomla! users!  We're a mix of end users, template makers and extension developers all working on the Joomla! framework, including Chris Davenport who's in charge of documentation for the Joomla! project. I also targeted the Staffs LUG as I used to be in Stafford at Uni, and I remember how much money Microsoft was pumping into the uni after 2000.  It would be great if we could get through to the students there now that there are alternitive platforms to be working on other than the .net framework (I studied Internet Technology and the big push was towards a Microsoft development stack, a royal pain when I wanted to develop in PHP and didn't want to have to install XP on my machine, but what can you do... ) Thanks, Chris -. -- Chris Williams  http://imnotplayinganymore.com/  http://twitter.com/scampiuk  http://facebook.com/chris.scampi.williams _______________________________________________ Staffslug mailing list Staffslug(a)staffslug.org.uk http://lists.staffslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/staffslug