Hey Geoff,
I've only just noticed you replied last week.  Basically if you send 
anything too big then it won't get sent to anyone and just get stuck for 
an admin to look at!  Really it would be better for you to resize down 
any photos directly from your camera/phone (as they're too huge for 
email! and a copy gets sent to everyone on the mailing list too, making 
it even worse!).
I've dug out of the server your last two stuck messages and put them 
below (along with sized down pics)... so that everyone can see the problem.
But essentially it looks like you're got THREE copies of Ubuntu... one 
on one hard disk, and two on a completely different hard disk.
You could really do with someone who can help you get any files you need 
out of all of them... and then perhaps keep the Ubuntu 23.04 install? 
maybe upgrading it to 24.04 at the very least (or perhaps just keep 
whichever install feels most like you're familiar with, and upgrade that?).
My guess is that every time you thought to upgrade... that perhaps you 
installed a fresh copy from USB pen (or DVD) and chose to 'Install 
alongside' ?  But that's only a guess.
Does anyone live near Cannock that could give Geoff a hand?  I don't 
even drive!
Steven Maddox
Lantizia
On 06/10/2025 10:21, general-owner(a)lists.staffslug.org.uk wrote:
 Subject:
 The no boot Ubuntu...
 From:
 Geoff Whiles <geoffwhiles(a)gmail.com>
 Date:
 06/10/2025, 10:19
 To:
 "General talk about anything you like." <general(a)lists.staffslug.org.uk>
 Hello Steven. Hope you have had a good weekend and all is good with you.
 I'm beginning to learn more and more as a result of these 
 conversations! I would like to add that you are giving me a lot of 
 your time, and I really appreciate it. I am very grateful, but 
 don't be shy to tell me to go away, if I annoy youI will not be 
 offended. I know as much about Linux as a loaf of bread does.
 I have GParted and taken pics with my phone and have uploaded them here.
 So, The pictures are attached but I am certain that somewhere along 
 the journey of providing them, I spotted a version of 16.04. I have 
 not been able to replicate where I have seen that though.
 Finally I really appreciate all the help, it's really difficult to try 
 to sort out the problem by myself and I have been unable to find 
 anyone commercially who understands or is familiar with Linux.
 I hope the attachments are meaningful. I am happy to travel, wherever 
 to get my desktop back up and running again.
 Kind regards.
 Geoff Whiles 
Steven Maddox
Lantizia
On 03/10/2025 08:34, Geoff Whiles via StaffsLUG General wrote:
 Hello Steven
 Thank you for your reply.
 You are right it is 18.04 and also for some reason I also have 22.04 
 options. I am unable to upgrade from 22.04, and 18.04 is a 
 separate version that I can open which shows files from that release. 
 Confusing. However, and weirdly I have been able to boot both, 
 separately.
 I have done what you have suggested and got a response that my 
 Nividia module is not configured correctly. So I am going to explore 
 how I can deal with it.
 Finally 2 points, to add to our conversation. Time to get your 
 handkerchief out. I am 73, and I find this very difficult to 
 understand and also please do tell me if I am a nuisance, I 
 genuinely wont be offended.
 Kind regards
 Geoff
 George Le_Wolf
 On Wed, 1 Oct 2025 at 13:25, Steven Maddox via StaffsLUG General 
 <general(a)lists.staffslug.org.uk> wrote:
     Hey Geoff,
     I'm guessing this is perhaps Ubuntu 18.04 or higher?  And perhaps
     you started to get this crash shortly after updating your kernel
     and/or graphics drivers/card?
     Basically that last thing in the boot sequence (the 'GNOME Display
     Manager', or GDM) is the thing that starts up X.org (which is the
     process that runs the graphical environment)... and since you can
     still see text, that must not be working.
     I'd advice rebooting into recovery mode and from the recovery menu
     there might be an option for something like 'failsafeX' or
     something like that... so that you can get back into the graphical
     environment with a safe low-end graphics mode to fix things.
     Probably a DKMS module (e.g. if you use NVIDIA or AMD graphics)
     didn't get re-installed from your last kernel upgrade.
     Let us know if how you get on, but that should point you in the
     right direction.
     Also from your postcode, you'll probably find WolvesLUG more local
     if you need to reach out to someone who lives near by (we're happy
     to have you here too :P)
     p.s. With you mentioning pubkey errors... that's likely (at a
     guess) something you're seeing with APT (or something that calls
     it, like whichever program you install software using) and
     probably just means you need to update your repo's... but it's
     probably not related to this issue.
     Steven Maddox
     Lantizia
     On 01/10/2025 10:48, Geoff Whiles via StaffsLUG General wrote:
>
>     Hello,
>
>
>     I am a user of Ubuntu and have been since the release of 12.04. I
>     have little understanding of the workings of Linux, though I have
>     several heavyweight tutorials and I'm not afraid to use the
>     Terminal. I use Ubuntu as a means to an end, in day to day home
>     computing. Forgive the terminology, but I am neither a geek or
>     programmer.
>
>
>     The system has completely crashed. Attached are several pics. I
>     won't witter further, so as not to complicate my dilemma. I
>     should add that I also get many pubkey errors, and also whilst
>     booting, the whole system hangs and I have to hard break to shut
>     down.
>
>
>
>     I hope that this message lands with someone who can dig me out of
>     this almighty hole or maybe refer me to someone who might be able
>     to help. And of course, I am happy to pay for any work undertaken.
>
>
>     Kind regards
>
>
>
>     Geoff Whiles
>
>
>     WS11 0GU
>
>     07711014256
>
>
>
>     Notes from my machine:
>
>
>     Select Boot Device
>
>
>     P1: ST3250820AS
>
>
>     P0: HFS128G3AMNB-2200A
>
>
>
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