10:07 a.m.
Hi All
Some of you may know (OK Kevan knows) I create and sell websites some are
standard HTML usually created in Front Page or Joomla. I have no PHP skills
and would probably struggle to create one with just a text editor.
Recently I've been doing a heck of a lot of Googling and a good 80% of the
sites I've looked at are appalling not necessarily in functionality but the
presentation makes me want to slap the owner for offending my eyes. True my
choice of colour scheme may not be to everyone's taste but at least I don't
use, for example, yellow fonts on a white background! How the hell are you
supposed to read that?
The latest trend seems to be *Black*, OK not my personal favourite but I
suppose it can look cool if you are a Goth or something, do they use white
fonts? na, course not, no lets have a transparent overlay with mauve fonts
and a black background made up of ghosted images, lovely. Then of course
there's text with an image as the background, do we check that everything
is positioned correct and that everything fits? Nope, "So the text spews
over that pink border on my image, I like the picture and anyway I know what
it says".
My other pet hate is those stupid web effects for example the *Slider*
effect where a box of text or an image stays in view whether you scroll up
or down and of course the bumble bee that follows your pointer, its pretty
cute for about 30 seconds then begins to tick you off and don't talk to me
about background music. I was on some amoeba's website which treated me to
Whitesnake or similar on a continual loop with some of the other pet hates
of mine, towards the bottom of the page the guy stated he was looking for
*Web Creation Work!!*, make your own mind up as to what I was thinking.
So after venting my spleen with all of the above I was wondering what your
pet hates for websites are?
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intermediate and advanced Linux users. Utilising a Rolling Release System
packages are regularly updated and an ISO release is just a snapshot to the
stable packages at that time. So there's no need for a fresh install the
command 'pacman –Syu' upgrades the whole system.
10:47 a.m.
I think we can all agree that music on auto play is hateful. Sites that
force you to use plug-ins to use them also are irritating.
My ultimate, pet hate for websites, is flash. WHAT kind of *!*IDIOT!*!
decided it would be a good idea to make a website that it takes 10
minutes to get past some crappy flash intro without an option to skip
it...then followed by a whole host of animations and transitions that
take 20 seconds to change between pages...and then...the mother of all
irritations. Because they setup some internally handled nav system it
means that the back button on my browser takes me OUT of the site and
back to their bloody flash intro as opposed to the last page I looked at
within their site. It /must/ be some God awful attempt to punish me for
something I've not done yet...possibly the "designer" of that site's
impending slaughter.
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On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 10:07 +0100, ArchLinuxUser dick_turpin wrote:
Hi All
Some of you may know (OK Kevan knows) I create and sell websites some
are standard HTML usually created in Front Page or Joomla. I have no
PHP skills and would probably struggle to create one with just a text
editor.
Recently I've been doing a heck of a lot of Googling and a good 80% of
the sites I've looked at are appalling not necessarily in
functionality but the presentation makes me want to slap the owner for
offending my eyes. True my choice of colour scheme may not be to
everyone's taste but at least I don't use, for example, yellow fonts
on a white background! How the hell are you supposed to read that?
The latest trend seems to be *Black*, OK not my personal favourite but
I suppose it can look cool if you are a Goth or something, do they use
white fonts? na, course not, no lets have a transparent overlay with
mauve fonts and a black background made up of ghosted images, lovely.
Then of course there's text with an image as the background, do we
check that everything is positioned correct and that everything fits?
Nope, "So the text spews over that pink border on my image, I like the
picture and anyway I know what it says".
My other pet hate is those stupid web effects for example the *Slider*
effect where a box of text or an image stays in view whether you
scroll up or down and of course the bumble bee that follows your
pointer, its pretty cute for about 30 seconds then begins to tick you
off and don't talk to me about background music. I was on some
amoeba's website which treated me to Whitesnake or similar on a
continual loop with some of the other pet hates of mine, towards the
bottom of the page the guy stated he was looking for *Web Creation
Work!!*, make your own mind up as to what I was thinking.
So after venting my spleen with all of the above I was wondering what
your pet hates for websites are?
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Regards
Dick Turpin
Arch Linux is an independent i686-optimized community distribution for
intermediate and advanced Linux users. Utilising a Rolling Release
System packages are regularly updated and an ISO release is just a
snapshot to the stable packages at that time. So there's no need for a
fresh install the command 'pacman –Syu' upgrades the whole system.
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2:08 p.m.
This is why I've always hated MySpace, it was a nice idea that was
engineered totally the wrong way. Any website that is stupid enough
not to check for CSS/HTML code would be considerd a exploit, but
MySpace instead embrace it and call it a "Feature". Facebook has
sucesseed where MySpace has failed in terms of design.
I'm also however guilty of poor choice in colour schemes. I remember
sitting down with Netscape Composer and uploading my un-W3C'd websites
to angelfire/geocities. However that was 7 years ago, and the web has
moved on. But its a process I think all designers go through when
first using HTML, once you've worked out how HTML allows elements to
be coloured and positioned you can then make the transition into CSS.
Atm I can write HTML and CSS to W3C standard and even write PHP
scripts and setup MySQL databases to link to it. However my PHP
coding probabily isn't even written efficient enough that would make
it usable by the hundreds. But its a learning process.
Its interesting though to see so many major companies on the internet
not using W3C compliance infavour of competant web design. For example
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=www.amazon.co.uk 1,160 errors on
the page!! W3C and web design should go hand-in-hand, some of my
personal favourite designs on the internet are open source projects.
Examples like www.jokosher.org www.joomla.com www.scribus.net.
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2:29 p.m.
The web is full of great examples of how people shouldn't be allowed to be
sitting in front of computers. There are some websites that have unusable
searches, navigation that changes depending on what page you are on, and the
worst of all, websites that are entirely made of images, held together by
tables and shoved on the internet with a server running windows xp. What the
hell is the world coming to?
On 23/07/07, adam nicholls <inkysplat(a)gmail.com> wrote:
This is why I've always hated MySpace, it was a nice idea that was
engineered totally the wrong way. Any website that is stupid enough
not to check for CSS/HTML code would be considerd a exploit, but
MySpace instead embrace it and call it a "Feature". Facebook has
sucesseed where MySpace has failed in terms of design.
I'm also however guilty of poor choice in colour schemes. I remember
sitting down with Netscape Composer and uploading my un-W3C'd websites
to angelfire/geocities. However that was 7 years ago, and the web has
moved on. But its a process I think all designers go through when
first using HTML, once you've worked out how HTML allows elements to
be coloured and positioned you can then make the transition into CSS.
Atm I can write HTML and CSS to W3C standard and even write PHP
scripts and setup MySQL databases to link to it. However my PHP
coding probabily isn't even written efficient enough that would make
it usable by the hundreds. But its a learning process.
Its interesting though to see so many major companies on the internet
not using W3C compliance infavour of competant web design. For example
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=www.amazon.co.uk 1,160 errors on
the page!! W3C and web design should go hand-in-hand, some of my
personal favourite designs on the internet are open source projects.
Examples like www.jokosher.org www.joomla.com www.scribus.net.
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3:01 p.m.
See this could bring the whole thread swinging back round to advocacy of
FOSS. I don't understand why so many people want to use proprietary
software with the horrid overhead of a GUI on a server when there's much
better stuff to do it like Debian or FreeBSD. Hell...ubuntu server is
amazingly easy to setup as a LAMP box. A lot of the websites that are
out there are a bit too ambitious for the hardware they're hosted from
in my opinion. I've heard of and seen people setup an XP (*spit*) box
as a webserver running on a 466MHz processor with 128MB RAM...MOST of
which is going to the explorer gui!
Bringing us to the question what are we doing to promote linux? (/me
starts a separate thread)
On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 14:29 +0100, Kris Douglas wrote:
The web is full of great examples of how people shouldn't be
allowed
to be sitting in front of computers. There are some websites that have
unusable searches, navigation that changes depending on what page you
are on, and the worst of all, websites that are entirely made of
images, held together by tables and shoved on the internet with a
server running windows xp. What the hell is the world coming to?
On 23/07/07, adam nicholls <inkysplat(a)gmail.com> wrote:
This is why I've always hated MySpace, it was a nice idea that
was
engineered totally the wrong way. Any website that is stupid
enough
not to check for CSS/HTML code would be considerd a exploit,
but
MySpace instead embrace it and call it a "Feature". Facebook
has
sucesseed where MySpace has failed in terms of design.
I'm also however guilty of poor choice in colour schemes. I
remember
sitting down with Netscape Composer and uploading my un-W3C'd
websites
to angelfire/geocities. However that was 7 years ago, and the
web has
moved on. But its a process I think all designers go through
when
first using HTML, once you've worked out how HTML allows
elements to
be coloured and positioned you can then make the transition
into CSS.
Atm I can write HTML and CSS to W3C standard and even write
PHP
scripts and setup MySQL databases to link to it. However my
PHP
coding probabily isn't even written efficient enough that
would make
it usable by the hundreds. But its a learning process.
Its interesting though to see so many major companies on the
internet
not using W3C compliance infavour of competant web design. For
example
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=www.amazon.co.uk 1,160
errors on
the page!! W3C and web design should go hand-in-hand, some of
my
personal favourite designs on the internet are open source
projects.
Examples like www.jokosher.org www.joomla.com www.scribus.net.
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3:15 p.m.
On 23/07/07, Joe Zambon <joe.zambon(a)jznet.org.uk> wrote:
See this could bring the whole thread swinging back round to advocacy of
FOSS. I don't understand why so many people want to use
proprietary
software with the horrid overhead of a GUI on a server when there's much
better stuff to do it like Debian or FreeBSD. Hell...ubuntu server is
amazingly easy to setup as a LAMP box. A lot of the websites that are
out there are a bit too ambitious for the hardware they're hosted from
in my opinion. I've heard of and seen people setup an XP (*spit*) box
as a webserver running on a 466MHz processor with 128MB RAM...MOST of
which is going to the explorer gui!
I'm not so bothered about the Server software in respect of this thread just
the awful *Look and Feel* of websites in general I just wonder if the
creators even look at their finished product and if they do when's their
next appointment at SpecSavers!
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command 'pacman –Syu' upgrades the whole system.
3:06 p.m.
On 23/07/07, Kris Douglas <webbox.uk(a)gmail.com> wrote:
The web is full of great examples of how people shouldn't be allowed to be
sitting in front of computers. There are some websites that have
unusable
searches, navigation that changes depending on what page you are on, and the
worst of all, websites that are entirely made of images, held together by
tables and shoved on the internet with a server running windows xp. What the
hell is the world coming to?
IMO the worst culprits are sites like 'MySpace' and 'You Tube' its just a
mish mash of Aaaaggggrrrhhhh
(Kris, you're based in Manchester aren't you? I'll be up that way tomorrow
going to the Holiday Inn for some Sophos Anti Virus training)
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intermediate and advanced Linux users. Utilising a Rolling Release System
packages are regularly updated and an ISO release is just a snapshot to the
stable packages at that time. So there's no need for a fresh install the
command 'pacman –Syu' upgrades the whole system.
4:26 p.m.
On 23/07/07, Joe Zambon <joe.zambon(a)jznet.org.uk> wrote:
My ultimate, pet hate for websites, is flash. WHAT kind of
*!*IDIOT!*!
decided it would be a good idea to make a website that it takes 10
minutes to get past some crappy flash intro without an option to skip
it...then followed by a whole host of animations and transitions that
take 20 seconds to change between pages...and then...the mother of all
irritations. Because they setup some internally handled nav system it
means that the back button on my browser takes me OUT of the site and
back to their bloody flash intro as opposed to the last page I looked at
within their site. It /must/ be some God awful attempt to punish me for
something I've not done yet...possibly the "designer" of that site's
impending slaughter.
Then, just to add salt to the already smarting wounds, you find the
site has won some bloody web building award!!!!!! WHAT????? The
fishing club I am a member of has just this sort of set up and yes
they won an award for it. It's bloody horrible!!!!!
Oh, my other pet hate is where sites are only configured for one
resolution. As is the new Yahoo Mail layout. It's awful with my res'
of 800x600. I don't want to change my resolution, why should I? That
smacks of Microsoft dictatorship :-(
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4:30 p.m.
I get that, but most of the time the judges think that Microsoft FrontPage
2000 is a good web design suite.
On 23/07/07, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 23/07/07, Joe Zambon <joe.zambon(a)jznet.org.uk> wrote:
> My ultimate, pet hate for websites, is flash. WHAT kind of *!*IDIOT!*!
> decided it would be a good idea to make a website that it takes 10
> minutes to get past some crappy flash intro without an option to skip
> it...then followed by a whole host of animations and transitions that
> take 20 seconds to change between pages...and then...the mother of all
> irritations. Because they setup some internally handled nav system it
> means that the back button on my browser takes me OUT of the site and
> back to their bloody flash intro as opposed to the last page I looked at
> within their site. It /must/ be some God awful attempt to punish me for
> something I've not done yet...possibly the "designer" of that
site's
> impending slaughter.
>
Then, just to add salt to the already smarting wounds, you find the
site has won some bloody web building award!!!!!! WHAT????? The
fishing club I am a member of has just this sort of set up and yes
they won an award for it. It's bloody horrible!!!!!
Oh, my other pet hate is where sites are only configured for one
resolution. As is the new Yahoo Mail layout. It's awful with my res'
of 800x600. I don't want to change my resolution, why should I? That
smacks of Microsoft dictatorship :-(
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6:53 p.m.
Some of you may know (OK Kevan knows) I create and sell websites some
are
standard HTML usually created in Front Page or Joomla. I have no PHP
skills and would probably struggle to create one with just a text editor.
If you're working as a professional web designer, I think it would be well
worth your while learning to code by hand. HTML isn't hard at all. PHP is
perhaps a little harder, but once you've spent a little time learning
you'll find it's a delightful language to use. You might well find that if
you learn to write code by hand, you'll never use FrontPage again.
Here are some sites you may find useful (if you don't know of them already):
Validators to check your coding (out of interest, you can see if what your
current editor produces is standards compliant):
http://validator.w3.org/
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Some really thorough HTML and PHP resources:
http://www.htmlhelp.com/
http://www.php.net/
Happy coding!
Best wishes,
Chris
8:20 p.m.
On 23/07/07, Christopher Tidy <cdt22(a)cantabgold.net> wrote:
If you're working as a professional web designer, I think it
would be well
worth your while learning to code by hand. HTML isn't hard at all. PHP is
perhaps a little harder, but once you've spent a little time learning
you'll find it's a delightful language to use. You might well find that if
you learn to write code by hand, you'll never use FrontPage again.
Hi Chris
Thanks for the info. Actually its only now and again I do the Front Page
job's generally its a Joomla site, well they're very easy, pre-made (Pretty
much) and quicker to turn around.
You may or may not know but my actual job is Sales Manager so web sites are
just a personal interest which fortunately I can sell which means work cant
moan "That's not what we employ you for". I do own one of those teach
yourself PHP in 24 hours books which I tend to use as a reference now and
again.
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stable packages at that time. So there's no need for a fresh install the
command 'pacman –Syu' upgrades the whole system.
10:02 a.m.
are standard HTML usually created in Front Page or Joomla. I have no
PHP
So after venting my spleen with all of the above I was wondering what
your pet hates for websites are?
Front Page!
or this:
http://www.churnetview.staffs.sch.uk/
A school website which only works in IE
Ugh!
10:40 a.m.
On 02/08/07, Simon Faulkner <simon(a)titanic.co.uk> wrote:
A school website which only works in IE
Hm, I could view it in Firefox and IE, personally I'd hide the border on
the *frame* get rid of the stupid speckled background, align the thing in
the middle, get the *Creators Name* off the picture and have a proper
Designed By, Copyright ect at the bottom of the page.
I reckon there's about 20 minutes of work there to make it presentable, not
perfect or outstanding but at least it would not look like a 10 year old had
knocked it together.
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packages are regularly updated and an ISO release is just a snapshot to the
stable packages at that time. So there's no need for a fresh install the
command 'pacman –Syu' upgrades the whole system.
12:13 p.m.
I dont suppose you noticed the fact that none of the links actually *work*
in firefox....
This is terrible, if i could click the email link to contact them I would
help to sort it out.
On 02/08/07, ArchLinuxUser dick_turpin <dick_turpin(a)archlinux.us> wrote:
On 02/08/07, Simon Faulkner <simon(a)titanic.co.uk> wrote:
> A school website which only works in IE
Hm, I could view it in Firefox and IE, personally I'd hide the border on
the *frame* get rid of the stupid speckled background, align the thing in
the middle, get the *Creators Name* off the picture and have a proper
Designed By, Copyright ect at the bottom of the page.
I reckon there's about 20 minutes of work there to make it presentable,
not perfect or outstanding but at least it would not look like a 10 year old
had knocked it together.
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2:15 p.m.
On 02/08/07, Kris Douglas <webbox.uk(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I dont suppose you noticed the fact that none of the links actually
*work*
in firefox....
Na, couldn't be arsed.
This is terrible, if i could click the email link to contact them I
would
help to sort it out.
Looking at the quality I doubt they have two penny's to rub together
so I'm defiantly not contacting them. (dick_turpin mercenary as ever).
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2:34 p.m.
tbh there should be a Web Design Council with voluntery members who
can help sort out websites or bring them closer to the W3C standards
(allow it to function in all browsers), sort of like the BCS (British
Computing Society) like body. Average Joe could report websites which
they feel "aren't quite" meeting the mark and the council would then
advise the website owners on how to bring the site to a "more
suitable" level of web usuability. Could probabily get goverment
funding too...
Another one of my hair-brain'd ideas.
3:19 p.m.
On 02/08/07, adam nicholls <inkysplat(a)gmail.com> wrote:
tbh there should be a Web Design Council with voluntery members who
can help sort out websites or bring them closer to the W3C standards
(allow it to function in all browsers), sort of like the BCS (British
Computing Society) like body. Average Joe could report websites which
they feel "aren't quite" meeting the mark and the council would then
advise the website owners on how to bring the site to a "more
suitable" level of web usuability. Could probabily get goverment
funding too...
ROTFLMAO
You on drugs or something? (Sorry couldn't resist)
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3:37 p.m.
I actually like that idea....It would be subject to a lot of crap from pr0n
websites and other things like that.
How can you do a standards test on a "warez" site?
On 02/08/07, Dick Turpin <highwayman.turpin(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 02/08/07, adam nicholls <inkysplat(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> tbh there should be a Web Design Council with voluntery members who
> can help sort out websites or bring them closer to the W3C standards
> (allow it to function in all browsers), sort of like the BCS (British
> Computing Society) like body. Average Joe could report websites which
> they feel "aren't quite" meeting the mark and the council would then
> advise the website owners on how to bring the site to a "more
> suitable" level of web usuability. Could probabily get goverment
> funding too...
ROTFLMAO
You on drugs or something? (Sorry couldn't resist)
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4:45 p.m.
On 02/08/07, Kris Douglas <webbox.uk(a)gmail.com> wrote:
How can you do a standards test on a "warez" site?
Or what about astalavista.com (Don't go there on a Windows box you'll
be infected within 30 seconds)
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4:49 p.m.
I dont use windows :P I know...the java console on Linux is filled with
shizzle whenever you goto websites like that, I go there for fun to see
their poor little codes trying to crack into my c drive :D
On 02/08/07, Dick Turpin <highwayman.turpin(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 02/08/07, Kris Douglas <webbox.uk(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> How can you do a standards test on a "warez" site?
Or what about astalavista.com (Don't go there on a Windows box you'll
be infected within 30 seconds)
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5:04 p.m.
On 02/08/07, Kris Douglas <webbox.uk(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I dont use windows :P
But Windows is a fantastic operating system and with Vista IE7 is bundled
free! :-P
I don't know how I knew about that site anyway I mean I'm as honest as the
day is long.
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5:12 p.m.
They cant be that short...can they?
On 02/08/07, ArchLinuxUser dick_turpin <dick_turpin(a)archlinux.us> wrote:
On 02/08/07, Kris Douglas <webbox.uk(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I dont use windows :P
But Windows is a fantastic operating system and with Vista IE7 is bundled
free! :-P
I don't know how I knew about that site anyway I mean I'm as honest as the
day is long.
Regards
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3:43 p.m.
Sorry Adam...nice idea but it just wouldn't work.
There's no way on earth that people are going to pay attention to what
would seemingly be a "group of meddling busybodies" telling them that
their website is crap.
That and the interwebs are too huge!
On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 14:34 +0100, adam nicholls wrote:
tbh there should be a Web Design Council with voluntery members who
can help sort out websites or bring them closer to the W3C standards
(allow it to function in all browsers), sort of like the BCS (British
Computing Society) like body. Average Joe could report websites which
they feel "aren't quite" meeting the mark and the council would then
advise the website owners on how to bring the site to a "more
suitable" level of web usuability. Could probabily get goverment
funding too...
Another one of my hair-brain'd ideas.
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New subject: Free VGA cables for KVM switch
Hi,
I have two black VGA cables which I bought for a KVM switch, but never
used. They have male VGA plugs on both ends (male screw threads for
securing, too). They're good quality, shielded cables. New and unused.
Free to anyone who will collect them from Edgmond Common, TF10 8ES.
Best wishes,
Chris
11:49 a.m.
New subject: Free VGA cables for KVM switch
On 10/03/2008, Christopher Tidy <cdt22(a)cantabgold.net> wrote:
Hi,
I have two black VGA cables which I bought for a KVM switch, but never
used. They have male VGA plugs on both ends (male screw threads for
securing, too). They're good quality, shielded cables. New and unused.
Free to anyone who will collect them from Edgmond Common, TF10 8ES.
Best wishes,
Chris
I could certainly use them but can't get over to you :-( I have a
four port KVM and I do have cables for it.. problem is they are a bit
short and extremely unflexible which means that the box often gets
pulled off :-(
Ah well...
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