I like the idea for local mirrors would be great also the linux for chocolate is a brilliant idea Im more than willing to sign up to that as a donor.

On 10/08/07, Kris Douglas <webbox.uk(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: I'm currently working on a new theme for the system that the site runs on. > I'm sure some of you have seen the logo that I designed a short time ago, > I'm following that design over to a new site. I hope to see some more stuff > on here, like local mirrors to Linux distributions, Linux for Chocolate > project, where distributions can be mailed to people for a fee of chocolate, > or something that can be agreed on...just a few ideas for what would be nice > to see in the future of StaffsLUG.. What a cool idea/slogan! 'Linux for Chocolate' this is one of the things I love about the Linnux/open source community simple ideas that subtlety build relationships its up there with that other famous line "There's a drink in it for you" I'm ashamed to say I not heard of this one, sorry Kris but a big pat on the back from me anyway. where's the link and I'll stick it on my site. -- Regards Dick Turpin Arch Linux is an independent i686-optimized community distribution for intermediate and advanced Linux users. Utilising a Rolling Release System packages are regularly updated and an ISO release is just a snapshot to the stable packages at that time. So there's no need for a fresh install the command 'pacman –Syu' upgrades the whole system. _______________________________________________ Staffslug mailing list Staffslug(a)staffslug.org.uk http://www.staffslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/staffslug

"Where's the link" Linux for chocolate doesn't exist yet! t was a spur of the moment idea. -- Regards, Kris Douglas - Softdel Limited Web: www.softdel.net Mail: kris(a)softdel.net _______________________________________________ Staffslug mailing list Staffslug(a)staffslug.org.uk http://www.staffslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/staffslug

In hindsight I think the mirror might be a bad idea unless theres a few guys out there with bandwidth to burn. instead of a mirror service maybe some sort of linux distro directory members experiences with said distro? Not like "distro X is teh best" but a detailed break down of what they liked what needs to improved etc. I know a lot of the above can be found elsewhere but I really think that sort of thing brings the community togeather.

hmm a distrobution review type service would be good, I'm quite guilty or rotating distros or trying new releases of distros just to see what its like. It'd be great for us maybe "more experienced" users to give an actual real-world review of distrobutions, this could be fed back into the distrobutions projects as a bug/feature request type thing but at the same time be a guide for people want to switch distro or for newbies starting out. Maybe this could include a score system reg marks out of ten, if we reviewed enough distros we could say "The Staffs LUG has reviewed many distros and most like/use XXXXX". Also I don't often use mailing lists however this mailing list seems to have made an impression on me, however I'm not sure these discussions/emails should be kept behind the closed doors of mailman. Is there a way to prehaps intergrate it into E107? Or a way to import certain threads into the site so other lugs can see our views or to encourage linux users in stafford who pass by to join our discussions? As for the mirrors I don't think it would work, the best we could probabily do is offer an BitTorrent Tracker for a few ISOs. ------- Adam _______________________________________________ Staffslug mailing list Staffslug(a)staffslug.org.uk http://www.staffslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/staffslug

PS. Adam, I like the guide idea, that could actually tie in with the linux for chocolate idea because the people that know something about what they are doing can have contacts on the profile page thing i mentioned above. *notices that this is becoming a good idea, rather than a theory* On 12/08/07, Kris Douglas <webbox.uk(a)gmail.com > wrote: > > I think that you are all bringing great ideas into the conversation. I > agree, people need bandwidth to burn for mirrors. I do not have a problem > with bandwidth... > > What about this Linux for chocolate idea, how about we have a page with > a profile of people that want to take part in the project, and have > information on what distros they have experience with, and what area they > are in...etc. > > On 12/08/07, adam nicholls < inkysplat(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > > > hmm a distrobution review type service would be good, I'm quite guilty > > or rotating distros or trying new releases of distros just to see what > > its like. It'd be great for us maybe "more experienced" users to give > > an actual real-world review of distrobutions, this could be fed back > > into the distrobutions projects as a bug/feature request type thing > > but at the same time be a guide for people want to switch distro or > > for newbies starting out. Maybe this could include a score system reg > > > > marks out of ten, if we reviewed enough distros we could say "The > > Staffs LUG has reviewed many distros and most like/use XXXXX". > > > > Also I don't often use mailing lists however this mailing list seems > > to have made an impression on me, however I'm not sure these > > discussions/emails should be kept behind the closed doors of mailman. > > Is there a way to prehaps intergrate it into E107? Or a way to import > > certain threads into the site so other lugs can see our views or to > > encourage linux users in stafford who pass by to join our discussions? > > > > As for the mirrors I don't think it would work, the best we could > > probabily do is offer an BitTorrent Tracker for a few ISOs. > > > > > > ------- > > Adam > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Staffslug mailing list > > Staffslug(a)staffslug.org.uk > > http://www.staffslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/staffslug > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Kris Douglas - Softdel Limited > > Web: www.softdel.net > Mail: kris(a)softdel.net > -- Regards, Kris Douglas - Softdel Limited Web: www.softdel.net Mail: kris(a)softdel.net _______________________________________________ Staffslug mailing list Staffslug(a)staffslug.org.uk http://www.staffslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/staffslug

I think it'd be kind of cool to have a meets page too - There seems to be loads more people (active at least) on the list so it'd be nice to have to meet other local *nix users :-) Matthew On Sun, Aug 12, 2007 at 12:44:40PM +0100, Jonothon Nihill wrote: > Wow this is coming together now, Kris what you mentioned about the profiles > sounds great. I definitely think that the linux for chocolate is a sound > idea. adam, your like me a little I'm always on the look out to try > something new and this seems to me like a great idea to maybe pass on what > we experience and it might even encourage people into getting more under the > hood with linux. _______________________________________________ Staffslug mailing list Staffslug(a)staffslug.org.uk http://www.staffslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/staffslug

Set up a ticket system you know the sort of thing for fault calls ect, thats a backend to a web/wiki page offering help. Members sign up to give support on a range of subjects be it one item or a thousand and one and Joe public (Or me) goes to the web page/wiki looks down the list selects the desired help item and clicks on the relevant link. Problems are categorized by chocolate level which you click on which in turn sends/registers a fault call (I'll call it that for a minute its easier to understand what I'm on about) so for example sake; Mars Bar (Maybe a picture of one too) = No X display blah blah blah (eg loads of low level problems) Bar of Cadburys (--^--) = Cant compile blah blah blah Box of dairy milk (--^--) = Can you come and install it for me The above are mega rough examples but hopefully you get the way my mind is working the beauty of a ticket system as you know means it can be tracked to resolution you can see who resolved it you can see who asked for it. Then we can all run round Kris's house coz he's got all the chocolate. :-P

Wow this Linux for Chocolate idea seems to have attracted alot of attention maybe Staffslug can be put on the map... we'll have our interview on Lugradio yet, and some possibly overweight geeks who've eaten too much chocolate! _______________________________________________ Staffslug mailing list Staffslug(a)staffslug.org.uk http://www.staffslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/staffslug

> Here is my pathetic mock up http://www.testarea.co.uk/lfc/index.htm of > course it would need to be linked into something like Matthew's suggestion > of RT > > I suppose using Cadburys product images might be a copyright infringement > but I doubt they'll complain free advertising and all that.

I think that supports incentives to fix stuff too (built in).

On 13/08/07, ArchLinuxUser dick_turpin <dick_turpin(a)archlinux.us&gt; wrote: > > On 13/08/07, Matthew <m(a)ingsoc.eu&gt; wrote: > > > > > You could also try bugzilla - http://www.bugzilla.org/ > > > > I think that supports incentives to fix stuff too (built in). > > > Well I never, just shows how much I know. I always thought bugzilla was some formal thing attached to a distribution I didn't realise its a standalone server app. > > Thing is I've used the Novell one and it was really complicated so a learner would have no chance. I think it ought to be simple, I'd envisage the user clicking on a link filling in the body of their mail and the backend doing all the weird and wonderful stuff eg allotting, assigning and giving the sender a reference number (How about "Your reference is 1020 Jelly Beans")? > > > -- > Regards > > Dick Turpin >

Thats easily done on MediaWiki or similar.. You'd have to have a few mods, and make sure people can't edit other peoples pages... On 13/08/07, Kevanf1 <kevanf1(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > On 13/08/07, Kris Douglas < webbox.uk(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > > > > > > On 13/08/07, ArchLinuxUser dick_turpin <dick_turpin(a)archlinux.us&gt; > wrote: > > > > > > On 13/08/07, Matthew <m(a)ingsoc.eu&gt; wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > You could also try bugzilla - http://www.bugzilla.org/ > > > > > > > > I think that supports incentives to fix stuff too (built in). > > > > > > > > > Well I never, just shows how much I know. I always thought bugzilla > was > > some formal thing attached to a distribution I didn't realise its a > > standalone server app. > > > > > > Thing is I've used the Novell one and it was really complicated so a > > learner would have no chance. I think it ought to be simple, I'd > envisage > > the user clicking on a link filling in the body of their mail and the > > backend doing all the weird and wonderful stuff eg allotting, > assigning and > > giving the sender a reference number (How about "Your reference is > 1020 > > Jelly Beans")? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Regards > > > > > > Dick Turpin > > > > > I like the wiki idea :-) Clean and simple and most people know how it > works by now. Whereas Bugzilla is fantastic once you have it worked > out. Newcomers shy away from Bugzilla, I know I did to start > with...but that about 8 years ago which was actually about 3 years > after my first introduction to Linux :-) > > The one thing with a wiki though is to make sure the security is > sorted from the word go. > -- > ============================================== > > Kevan Farmer > Linux user #373362 > Staffordshire > > _______________________________________________ > Staffslug mailing list > Staffslug(a)staffslug.org.uk > http://www.staffslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/staffslug > -- Regards, Kris Douglas - Softdel Limited Web: www.softdel.net Mail: kris(a)softdel.net _______________________________________________ Staffslug mailing list Staffslug(a)staffslug.org.uk http://www.staffslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/staffslug

4. They'll fell guilty if they haven't sent any chocolate.

On 13/08/07, Kris Douglas <webbox.uk(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Thats easily done on MediaWiki or similar.. You'd have to have a few mods, > and make sure people can't edit other peoples pages... Hm, hows this gonna work Kris? If its a HOWTO wiki nobody is going to send any chocolate and I've already eaten my bar of dairy milk. If its a 'Send an Email' then; 1. Its a bit more personal 2. They may become friends 3. They may join our list 4. They'll fell guilty if they haven't sent any chocolate. -- Regards Dick Turpin Arch Linux is an independent i686-optimized community distribution for intermediate and advanced Linux users. Utilising a Rolling Release System packages are regularly updated and an ISO release is just a snapshot to the stable packages at that time. So there's no need for a fresh install the command 'pacman –Syu' upgrades the whole system. _______________________________________________ Staffslug mailing list Staffslug(a)staffslug.org.uk http://www.staffslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/staffslug

to face or telephone etc... ...after thking the wiki can still contain certain things like basic howtos, links etc...but the Linux for chocolate page would contain profiles on the people willing to participate and what they can do, and how they best think they would want to do it...

*pops out of hiding and finally gets around to stop reading the digests and actually post*

On Mon, 2007-08-13 at 19:44 +0100, adam nicholls wrote: > I can't visualize how a Wiki would work in this scenario, a Ticketing > System seems the obvious choice surely? Possibly a forum at best, > where the initial poster presents the problem and the replies are "us > Linux experienced" people replying with which chocolate would entice > them to fix it? I'm inclined to agree. I've seen forums used for similar things in the past, and while they're not ideally suited to it, I think it's better suited to the job than a wiki. > If there is enough PHP/SQL type coders on mailing list we could make > our own bespoke Web App for this... and in true Open-Source style > release the source so other projects can us it on their websites? I know PHP, but I currently have no spare time to devote to something like this, and I don't know if I'm going to have in the foreseeable future. Russ _______________________________________________ Staffslug mailing list Staffslug(a)staffslug.org.uk http://www.staffslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/staffslug

On 13/08/07, Kris Douglas <webbox.uk(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > A forum sounds like an idea to pursue... > Don't we already have this on the website? How about expanding it rather than trying to reinvent the wheel? Perhaps put some specific categories in place... and go from there? -- ============================================== Kevan Farmer Linux user #373362 Staffordshire _______________________________________________ Staffslug mailing list Staffslug(a)staffslug.org.uk http://www.staffslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/staffslug

If we used a PHPbb based forum, we could write our own mod for it? _______________________________________________ Staffslug mailing list Staffslug(a)staffslug.org.uk http://www.staffslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/staffslug

If we used a PHPbb based forum, we could write our own mod for it? _______________________________________________ Staffslug mailing list Staffslug(a)staffslug.org.uk http://www.staffslug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/staffslug

<Snip> What Sparkes is back? where? (Former Lugradio presenter, friend and sparring partner) I sadly agree, this is a probelm if someone steals it... I think we should get a page on the site ASAP. But i think Dave has gone missing O__o

<Snip> What Sparkes is back? where? (Former Lugradio presenter, friend and sparring partner) I sadly agree, this is a probelm if someone steals it... I think we should get a page on the site ASAP. But i think Dave has gone missing O__o