That looks good to me. Russ On 02/10/2019 08:48, Steven Maddox wrote:

I like the 90's :) The celebratory logo idea was Dave's... and it's not exactly harming you.  Also if anyone can/should pass judgement as to whether this is/isn't a continuation or not (I don't care how it's viewed - either way) then I'd say he has that say more than I... as he co-founded the LUG 20 years ago :) I'm up for a chat on use of logo's... but show me an actual law.  My guess (not a solicitor)... is it's fair use especially as it isn't being used for commercial gain. I got all the logos from Wikipedia (an excellent source of vector's by the way!)... <sarcasm> Wikipedia must be just *drowning* in all that legal debt from all their logo misuse! </sarcasm> Steven Maddox Lantizia On 02/10/2019 14:09, Jon Nihill wrote:

Yea, I like the logo, and legally I don’t see an issue. See you at the next one. Jonathan From: Kris Douglas <krisdouglas(a)gmail.com&gt; Sent: 02 October 2019 14:53 To: Steven Maddox <s.maddox(a)lantizia.me.uk&gt; Cc: StaffsLUG <general(a)lists.staffslug.org.uk&gt; Subject: [StaffsLUG General] Re: Commemorate 20 years of StaffsLUG I think I did our most recent logo before this one and my design skills have improved very little since! I quite like the retro look of the anniversary logo! I really ought to try and make it to a meeting! Kris On Wed, 2 Oct 2019, 14:21 Steven Maddox, <s.maddox@lantizia.me.uk<mailto:s.maddox@lantizia.me.uk>> wrote: I like the 90's :) The celebratory logo idea was Dave's... and it's not exactly harming you. Also if anyone can/should pass judgement as to whether this is/isn't a continuation or not (I don't care how it's viewed - either way) then I'd say he has that say more than I... as he co-founded the LUG 20 years ago :) I'm up for a chat on use of logo's... but show me an actual law. My guess (not a solicitor)... is it's fair use especially as it isn't being used for commercial gain. I got all the logos from Wikipedia (an excellent source of vector's by the way!)... <sarcasm> Wikipedia must be just *drowning* in all that legal debt from all their logo misuse! </sarcasm> Steven Maddox Lantizia On 02/10/2019 14:09, Jon Nihill wrote: At work at the moment, So I'll be brief. Might want to check with the owner of any logo's you use I know for a fact some of those you have included here and others on the site (the red hat fedora as an example) you need to get prior permission to use. Also I really don't see the point in celebrating twenty years of their being a lug when it's only just "relaunched" after being mothballed for a good few years. We're in October now as well and I think projects such as finishing off the LUG website and getting rid of that awful 90's under construction sign would be a better use of function office's time. ~Opt. On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 8:49 AM Steven Maddox <s.maddox@lantizia.me.uk<mailto:s.maddox@lantizia.me.uk>> wrote: Lo, So for the past few weeks I've been chatting with Dave Roberts who started the LUG back in 1999. One idea he had was to commemorate the last 20 years, possibly with some sort of logo made by a graphic designer in the LUG (if we have any)... in particular an idea for our Tux/Knot logo atop a pair of Roman numeral X's. I did briefly mentioned this idea at the last meeting, but no idea if anyone heard me (as it was towards the end as we were taking pictures). So I've had a quick go at making something in any case... the PNG should open fine in anything but the SVG isn't quite websafe yet - so if you want to open that, use Inkscape which is what it was created in. Feedback would be great, or even alternatives? Will give it about a week and then use whatever we've got on the right-hand side panel of the website... not much of 2019 left now anyway to celebrate 20 years! Steven -- Steven Maddox Lantizia _______________________________________________ General mailing list -- general@lists.staffslug.org.uk<mailto:general@lists.staffslug.org.uk> To unsubscribe send an email to general-leave@lists.staffslug.org.uk<mailto:general-leave@lists.staffslug.org.uk> _______________________________________________ General mailing list -- general@lists.staffslug.org.uk<mailto:general@lists.staffslug.org.uk> To unsubscribe send an email to general-leave@lists.staffslug.org.uk<mailto:general-leave@lists.staffslug.org.uk> _______________________________________________ General mailing list -- general@lists.staffslug.org.uk<mailto:general@lists.staffslug.org.uk> To unsubscribe send an email to general-leave@lists.staffslug.org.uk<mailto:general-leave@lists.staffslug.org.uk>

Well that was an oddly disproportionate response! On Wed, 2 Oct 2019, 15:25 Jon Nihill, <spacefighter209(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

Hey, Yeah I had no doubts about some logos being having one license/trademark or another in different applications/jurisdictions. However this commemorative 'thing' is just likely to be around until on the right-hand side bar of the site until 1st Jan anyway... It's more like a bit of fan art, than an official logo (which isn't changing). Wikipedia obviously do show logos on pages to describe things in an educational/journalistic capacity, and don't show the license/attribution on that exact page... but do if you drill down into the image metadata. At this point, I was more wanting to get feedback... *if* it was used then it'd be accompanied by a blog post or something to show where all the images came from / who made them, etc... Steven Maddox Lantizia On 02/10/2019 15:39, Kris Douglas wrote: > On the fact of the matter, it does appear that the use of the RH logo is > restricted to those with specific authorisation. Though I know its used > in all sorts of places where one knows permission hasn't been sought. > Whether it's chosen to include it based on precedent or exclude it based > on honouring their brand requirements (and/or trademark) is another > question. > > K > > On Wed, 2 Oct 2019, 15:31 Kris Douglas, <krisdouglas(a)gmail.com > <mailto:krisdouglas@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Well that was an oddly disproportionate response!  > > On Wed, 2 Oct 2019, 15:25 Jon Nihill, <spacefighter209(a)gmail.com > <mailto:spacefighter209@gmail.com>> wrote: > > What the hell Steven? I was giving feedback and you give me > snark? You want to do that email me privately. Don't use the lug > mailing list. > > Moving on It's clear you know nothing about logo use because in > the case of redhat it's a registered trademark. Wikipedia or > wherever you got it from may have permission to use it. Go visit > their site. Go and read what they put up there regarding their > logo use. > > It's clear my being a member of the LUG offends you somehow > despite the fact I generally don't attend the meetings and post > very little to the mailing list. I'll unsubscribe from the > mailing list and leave it be. > > On Wed, 2 Oct 2019, 2:21 pm Steven Maddox, > <s.maddox(a)lantizia.me.uk <mailto:s.maddox@lantizia.me.uk>> wrote: > > I like the 90's :) > > The celebratory logo idea was Dave's... and it's not exactly > harming you.  Also if anyone can/should pass judgement as to > whether this is/isn't a continuation or not (I don't care > how it's viewed - either way) then I'd say he has that say > more than I... as he co-founded the LUG 20 years ago :) > > I'm up for a chat on use of logo's... but show me an actual > law.  My guess (not a solicitor)... is it's fair use > especially as it isn't being used for commercial gain. > > I got all the logos from Wikipedia (an excellent source of > vector's by the way!)... > > <sarcasm> Wikipedia must be just *drowning* in all that > legal debt from all their logo misuse! </sarcasm> > > Steven Maddox > Lantizia > > On 02/10/2019 14:09, Jon Nihill wrote: >> At work at the moment, So I'll be brief. Might want to >> check with the owner of any logo's you use I know for a >> fact some of those you have included here and others on >> the site (the red hat fedora as an example)  you need to >> get prior permission to use.  >> >> Also I really don't see the point in celebrating twenty >> years of their being a lug when it's only just >> "relaunched" after being mothballed for a good few years. >> We're in October now as well and I think projects such as >> finishing off the LUG website and getting rid of that >> awful 90's under construction sign would be a better use >> of function office's time. >> >> ~Opt. >> >> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 8:49 AM Steven Maddox >> <s.maddox(a)lantizia.me.uk <mailto:s.maddox@lantizia.me.uk>> >> wrote: >> >> Lo, >> >> So for the past few weeks I've been chatting with Dave >> Roberts who >> started the LUG back in 1999.  One idea he had was to >> commemorate the >> last 20 years, possibly with some sort of logo made by >> a graphic designer >> in the LUG (if we have any)... in particular an idea >> for our Tux/Knot logo >> atop a pair of Roman numeral X's.  >> >> I did briefly mentioned this idea at the last meeting, >> but no idea if >> anyone heard me (as it was towards the end as we were >> taking pictures).  >> >> So I've had a quick go at making something in any >> case... the PNG should >> open fine in anything but the SVG isn't quite websafe >> yet - so if you want >> to open that, use Inkscape which is what it was >> created in. >> >> Feedback would be great, or even alternatives?  >> >> Will give it about a week and then use whatever we've >> got on the >> right-hand side panel of the website... not much of >> 2019 left now anyway >> to celebrate 20 years! >> >> Steven >> >> -- >> Steven Maddox >> Lantizia >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list -- general(a)lists.staffslug.org.uk >> <mailto:general@lists.staffslug.org.uk> >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> general-leave(a)lists.staffslug.org.uk >> <mailto:general-leave@lists.staffslug.org.uk> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> General mailing list -- general(a)lists.staffslug.org.uk <mailto:general@lists.staffslug.org.uk> >> To unsubscribe send an email to general-leave(a)lists.staffslug.org.uk <mailto:general-leave@lists.staffslug.org.uk> > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list -- general(a)lists.staffslug.org.uk > <mailto:general@lists.staffslug.org.uk> > To unsubscribe send an email to > general-leave(a)lists.staffslug.org.uk > <mailto:general-leave@lists.staffslug.org.uk> > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list -- general(a)lists.staffslug.org.uk > <mailto:general@lists.staffslug.org.uk> > To unsubscribe send an email to > general-leave(a)lists.staffslug.org.uk > <mailto:general-leave@lists.staffslug.org.uk> > > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list -- general(a)lists.staffslug.org.uk > To unsubscribe send an email to general-leave(a)lists.staffslug.org.uk >

Lo, Not always like this, but I guess it'll happen occasionally... do stick around for the drama if nothing else :) I'm looking into installing inn2 <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/software/inn/> and linking it to the mailman3 <http://list.org/> nntp runner <https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/runners/docs/nntp.ht... and handler <https://mailman.readthedocs.io/en/latest/src/mailman/handlers/docs/nntp.h...;.  This'd mean you could connect to lists.staffslug.org.uk by NNTP in your favourite newsreader (e.g. Thunderbird) just like it was Usenet :P As you can see from the runner/handler links above - the documentation is a little thin on the ground :S  I'll probably build a separate box to test it on, rather than breaking our mailing lists! On the logo side of things, I've heard back from someone off-list with some ideas for modifications.  But other than that, all quiet - no alternatives put forward.  It'll go live on the site tomorrow unless that situation changes. p.s. *meeting tonight!!  *see this message from the meetings@ list <https://lists.staffslug.org.uk/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/meetings@lists.st... for information! Steven Maddox Lantizia On 02/10/2019 20:15, Adam Stanton wrote: